There's probably a game to be made out of this called Fleet Wars.

Maybe they meant their provider has it for payment info. That would not be unusual in Europe.

Not OP, and also not sure where I actually stand on this debate because I think your point has a lot of validity to it, but...

I think there's also an argument in favor of a person having the right to access their money (and I'd argue that accessing your bank's website/app is accessing your money) however they want, and that access to their money is more of an important right than the bank's right to control how that access happens.

I think we can all agree to some "within reason" clauses on both sides (eg not allowing HTTP only access seems reasonable), and I guess a lot of this debate is "is requiring attestation within reason?"

To me, any asymmetry between the rights of the consumer and the rights of the bank should be in the favor of the consumer.

This thread is reminding me of Gianmarco Soresi's bit about R Kelly not being a pedophile (technically speaking).

I think the distinction spills into comedy when the discussion focuses on whether or not Epstein or R Kelly or whoever was a pedophile. It doesn't really matter because obviously they were terrible people regardless of that.

It's a far more sensible point to consider when we're discussing the people around these individuals. If the girls surrounding Epstein had been prepubescent, that'd be a much worse look for the people around him.

This is what I appreciate about paywalls, subscription modals, etc: there's a clear definition of the "deal", and I can just nope out. "Please enable ads or don't view our content" is also perfect.

I don't wanna trick anyone into showing me ad-free content, I just want a chance to choose.

Flagged your comment and stopped reading after the first sentence.

Entirely unnecessary.

Not sure if serious because you're converting from football fields to acres, but the acre is another unit that non-Americans generally don't use.

Acres are still widely used in the UK and Ireland for measuring rural and agricultural land. The legal documents for the land will use hectares, but lots of people and documents will use acres outside of legal documents.

India has has a substantial number of acre users.

And if you can find them: I find steel cut oats (as opposed to rolled oats) way more enjoyable for texture.

Agreed. Recent Niri switcher here (from Sway after a brief swing by Cosmic) and I find it surprisingly simple and reliable for its age.

These days it's arguable that F1 needs pit crews because pit stops are the only source of entropy during a race but I (bitterly) digress.