Only if you could call the ipod a clone of all previous mp3 players. Technology != Customer Experience.

Except torque is only for car enthusiasts, and it looks like the general population would have use for this.

I drive a 15 year old car and find Torque very valuable, it's not just for enthusiasts.

And you can make the screens as simple as this displays.

I guess this one is just easier out of the box.

Wow, I wouldn't necessarily call it a "clone". That skeuomorphism would make Scott Forstall cry. And what's with using Copperplate for logo? It makes the app look like something a child designed in Microsoft Word.

This thing doesn't really offer me more than my Honda Insight already does built-in.

I'm going to get a ScanGuageII soon: http://www.scangauge.com/products/scangaugeii/

Thanks for those links. I'm tempted to buy one to experiment. Torque says it allows you to upload data to your own website too, which means you could use it with Tasker to do probably much more than the Automatic can do.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch....

I'm a user of Torque - I think I'm with you on this one, not many people of aware of apps and devices that can communicate with their cars, which is why the niche for a device like Automatic exists, I guess.

"Why the fax machine is nothing but a waffle iron with a phone attached."

To be fair, I bought a $10 EML327 and it didn't work in my car.

Not all elm327 clones are the same. Some don't support the newer protocols, you should check their forums for leads on the better sellers on ebay/amazon.