The Budapest Memorandum provided security assurances, not guarantees. As I said in one of my previous comments, the situation is far more complex than Russia bad, Ukraine good. If you want to talk bout the Budapest Memorandum you also have to talk about NATO expansion, what has gone on in Ukraine since the memorandum was established, the diplomatic policies of Western powers involved in the Memorandum and NGOs.
Acceptable conditions to end the war would be whatever prevents the sacrifice of Ukraine's working-age male population. Otherwise, as I also said in my previous comments, there will be no more Ukraine.
“The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.”
It’s not complicated. I don’t care what you want to call it, they pretty clearly violated it.
What conditions would do that? You say they should end the war. How? What exactly would peace look like in your view? Or are you just vaguely wishing?
If you asked me how Putin could stop the war and preserve his country, I’d be able to answer that easily. But I have no idea how Zelenskyy could. Educate me.
Do you know what the difference between an assurance and a guarantee is? There was no formal treaty declared. Russia could say that Ukraine violated provisions in the agreements, and has said so. Who is right?
It actually is quite complicated, but you choose to reduce the situation to black and white. There's unlikely to be peace by design - because the war isn't about Ukrainian sovereignty it's about genociding slavs on both sides of the conflict.
You clearly haven't read the book War is a Racket, which is why you don't understand that all wars - including the one in Ukraine - are fought to benefit a select few at the expense of the populations of the nations involved. Your proposed solution for stopping the war is a non-starter because that's not how wars work - it's delusional to think it would ever happen.
So what does peace look like? You say he should sue for peace. Does that mean proposing that Russia retreat to pre-2014 borders? Pre-2022 borders? Borders at the current front lines? Something in between? What do you think would work?
The fact that you can’t describe what Zelenskyy should do to stop the bleeding beyond a uselessly vague “sue for peace” tells me that your objection isn’t really Zelenskyy’s handling of the war, your objection is to the fact that he exists as the leader of a place that Russia wants.
> So what does peace look like? You say he should sue for peace
Yes, if he actually wanted peace and to preserve the lives of his working-age male population he would concede some territory for some sort of security guarantee (not assurance). Instead he traps his entire working-age male population in the country and conscripts them off the street.
If Russia wanted peace and to preserve the lives of their working-age male population, they would be more willing to negotiate terms of surrender for Ukraine, or withdraw from the Ukraine completely.
Clearly neither side wants peace. So the war continues. Every single time peace talks happen, one side or the other sabotages them. This is by design.
> your objection isn’t really Zelenskyy’s handling of the war, your objection is to the fact that he exists as the leader of a place that Russia wants
No? The conflict is not about Russia wanting Ukraine or Ukrainian sovereignty as I have stated multiple times. It's about genociding slavs. There's a reason that negotiators on both sides of the table share something in common in terms of their identity.
Wars aren't organic, they are orchestrated by certain factions of people that want to create a society / world in their ideal order. The Ukraine conflict is part of their plan. It's been written and spoken about many times in recent decades. If you haven't figured that out yet and are still relying on the Putin bad logic to explain this conflict, I don't know what else I can tell you.
Do I think Zelenskyy suing for peace is at all realistic? No. You also asked a completely unrealistic question, because the goal isn't peace or territorial gain, it's genocide of slavs.
I'd reply to your comment directly, but HN is preventing me for whatever reason.
Hysterical reply though! I'm sure you said that elites trafficking children to an Island was crackpot bullshit too, until it wasn't. I understand that you need your worldview to fit into a tiny, neat little logical box that makes you feel virtuous and safe. Unfortunately for you, reality has other plans.
Oh, I don't feel safe. It's just I'm worried about realistic threats like global war caused by a bunch of idiot assholes becoming heads of state, not some shadowy cabal orchestrating a pandemic in order to force vaccines on the population.
> Oh, I don't feel safe. It's just I'm worried about realistic threats like global war caused by a bunch of idiot assholes becoming heads of state, not some shadowy cabal orchestrating a pandemic in order to force vaccines on the population.
Those idiot assholes that have become heads of state are the public face of said shadowy cabal. The pandemic was just one facet of their plan, and the war in Ukraine is another. I also didn't mention the pandemic once, and the link I sent you to talks about far more than just the pandemic.
I'm not sure how you can discount a shadowy cabal after what we've learned recently with global pedophile rings of elites trafficking children, that include current and former heads of state. Maybe dots simply aren't connecting for you? The word realistic in relation to world affairs has lost a lot of meaning given current events, wouldn't you agree?
A shadowy cabal that gets together for debauchery and rape is quite different from a shadowy cabal that unleashes a pandemic as part of an evil plan to force everyone to get vaccinated. Why would they even want to do that? I get why people want to engage in debauchery. Why would they want to force vaccines on everyone? The basic concept makes no sense.
It's not necessarily about forcing vaccines on people or unleashing a pandemic, it's about seeing who will comply out of fear. In the Bible, there is prophecy laid out specifically in the Book of Revelation, that talks about a totalitarian system of control. In this system, participation in society is limited to those who take the mark of the beast (no the vaccine was not the mark, but it was a test 81%+ of US adults failed).
In the beast system, dystopian systems of surveillance monitor all social and financial activity and anyone who doesn't comply is debanked / ostracized / killed. This is why they're pushing for AI so hard - they need automated systems to shut off people's access to everything. The people perpetrating this plot are Luciferians, thus the obsession with AI (Lucifer thought he could outdo God and with AI they think they can build a better human than God - which is why transhumanism is also being pushed so hard lately).
Unpacking the plot requires knowing the history of mystery schools, secret societies, ruling families and their bloodlines / ancestry, historical events and their players etc... The perpetrators are the Jesuits, Zionists, Freemasons, Skull & Bones members, Fabian society members, etc... Basically all the psychopaths that drag us into endless wars, occupy positions of power in our governments, and belong to secret clubs are the ones involved in carrying out this great work, as they call it. And it's the same shadowy cabal that was raping kids on that island. They've written about their plans and past actions, most people just don't read or care to investigate how or what these people think and believe in. They even talk about their plans in front of us knowing most people won't pay attention or connect dots.
Why do they want to do this? Because they are a death cult that is obsessed with the Book of Revelation and want to usher in the Noahide new world order - the same new world order that US presidents and other politicians talk about (look up how many times both Bushes or Obama used this phrase). The same Noahide new world order that implements the beast system as prophesied in their favorite book.
Why do you think society keeps getting more and more Orwellian? Why do you think certain countries (like Russia and Israel presently) are more and more brazen about killing mass numbers of people in illegal wars (which is the modern form of human sacrifice) and not worried about facing any repercussions? Why do you think essentially no one in any government (besides the UK, and who knows if they'll actually really do anything in the long run) is doing anything about the pedo island besides talking about it?
You obviously don't need to believe me, but please do yourself a favor and do your own research if you're so inclined.
Acceptable conditions to end the war would be whatever prevents the sacrifice of Ukraine's working-age male population. Otherwise, as I also said in my previous comments, there will be no more Ukraine.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum [2] https://globalgeopolitics.co.uk/2025/12/06/how-a-non-binding...