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I agree with you, what I meant by this

> As others have pointed out, this really should be titled "Everything that's wrong with Java culture ..."

was that the OP didn't actually have much technical criticism of the language. If anything it's not "everything that's wrong" because it's missing a lot. I wasn't trying to defend Java.



Yes, my comment was meant more to highlight that any constructive criticism should address the design of the language (which is responsible for the culture), rather than complaining about the end result.

Though sometimes amusing examples do help to illustrate, when used carefully to supplement the main point!

[1] http://stackoverflow.com/questions/186964/java-core-api-anti...


Yeah, actually that's a good point, the talk I linked to with Joshua Bloch really doesn't address the core design of the language so much as a lot of fiddly things on the edges.




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