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You could express this view without breaking the guidelines or dragging down the standard of discourse here. The guidelines address this specifically:

Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


When I was a teenager I played World of Warcraft for 5 years. During that time we did "raids" where 40 people have to pay attention and communicate, sometimes for longer than 8 hours, with people from around the globe.

If teenagers can do it, adults can do it. Period. And if they can't, skill issue I guess.


This assumes productive work in a highly collaborative environment. Meetings aren't usually any of those things. The rest can be done remotely.


The idea that meetings of all things are the part we need to be physically present for is hilarious


I’m absolutely shocked that people think this example is a good comparison here. If only our jobs were exactly as stimulating as a video game, and the outcomes didn’t matter at all - then maybe we could use WOW raids as evidence.


Why does Liquid do the RWF in person then?


Mostly because it’s a lot of fun to get in one room and play together. They’ve pretty consistently said that they’re not even sure that it’s a net benefit for winning.


Because they all equally share in the struggle and accomplishment. It’s an actual team not an adult daycare like most jobs.


Every recent RWF, including the one a couple of weeks ago, they have at least a few people who are still remote.


Love this example. So damn true


Based example


If you have facts to show the class that haven't already been seen, otherwise...


I have a more moderate view on RTO elsewhere in this post, so I'm not someone who things WFH is always the best approach. But for now, I have yet to see any study suggest that RTO is more productive across the board all the time.


Citation needed period




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