Hacker Newsnew | past | comments | ask | show | jobs | submitlogin

I wouldn't, because the vast majority of the copyrighted works it was trained on are not present in the model, and the model can't be persuaded to spit them out at any reasonable level of fidelity (as the paper points out).

The comparatively few that are should be fixed.

If you want to argue that the act of training is in itself infringing, even if it doesn't result in a copy... well, I'd enjoy seeing you make that argument.



I'd be happy to take "reasonable level of fidelity" + yes, the act of training itself as infringing to a jury? I feel like it's going to look way more like "feeding into a copy machine" than "teaching a toddler" or whatever.


"the act of training is in itself infringing, even if it doesn't result in a copy"

"I'd be happy to take "reasonable level of fidelity" + yes, the act of training itself as infringing to a jury"

They're not the same thing. At all. The comparatively few that are [extractable] should be fixed. I already said that.

The vast majority of texts CANNOT BE EXTRACTED. Are they still infringing?


Oh, I'm aware that they're not the same. I suppose I'm thinking more like a "real-life lawyer."

At this stage, you can't just declare "infringing or not," thats the point of trials.

What I'm saying is -- you make good points -- but I like my chances in front of a jury with my explanation against yours.


This might be of interest, if you haven't already seen it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77vr00enzyo

Could be reversed by a higher court of course, but it seems like it establishes that pirating and training are two different "crimes". (Or three - see the bit about "infringing knock-offs").




Guidelines | FAQ | Lists | API | Security | Legal | Apply to YC | Contact

Search: