However, for certain ages and situations, nothing gets the point across quite as succinctly or unambiguously as a sharp thwack or spanking.
I wouldn't, however, consider that as discipline per se--that is something that takes a larger, longer-term sort of environment and character building than fast "don't do that" punishment.
That is bad reasoning. Lots of things that you shouldn't do are effective, that doesn't make them any less wrong. That something works does not make it ok. The ends do not justify the means. It is no less wrong to hit your kid than to hit your spouse.
That something works does not make it ok. The ends do not justify the means.
Depends on whether you're consequentialist or deontologicalist, I guess. For a consequentialist, nothing can make something okay other than that it works, and ends are the only thing that can justify any means. :)
"It is no less wrong to hit your kid than to hit your spouse."
Presumably a spouse has more intelligence, maturity, and common sense than a child and is a peer (equal) that you can speak to and don't have to resort to "spanking" or much worse.
Unfortunately, police abuse is the coming standard. US schools in Texas, Florida, and other states are increasing buildup of cops in k-12 schools, along with the threat of arrest and deadly force by said cops.
Class C misdeameaners are handed out in extreme regularity, with the common punishment is a fine or community service. Seems to me it's an intersection between the prison companies and school companies.
It seems like they are trying to get kids used to have police guarding their every movements. So, when they grow up, it will seem pretty normal for them an increasing police state.
I actually am a licensed substitute teacher. And I've served plenty of time in Indiana schools.
Yeah, they do tend to get a wee bit rowdy, but I saw no violence or such in the classes I've been in. There has been the usual silliness like paper airplanes and such, but nothing that would get anybody hurt.
I've also learned that they are respectful if you respect them. Tit for tat, with the benefit of the doubt.
