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Sorry, we can't improve school buses because Oakland is a shithole. Sorry, no space travel, Oakland is a shithole. No one is allowed to do anything good until Oakland looks like wakanda.


I mean, who in their right mind would raise kids in Oakland right now?


Oakland is a large city and has many nice and safe neighborhoods in it.


> many nice and safe neighborhoods

I think you mean "safer than East International Blvd."

I don't demand that you cite crime statistics by zip code, and compare the good ones to other cities. But that's what you'd need to do to be persuasive.


Most people understand that large cities have a variety of areas within them and the crime rate isn’t the same in the whole city. There are plenty of neighborhoods that have average to below average crime rates as compared to the rest of the US.


> Most people understand that large cities have a variety of areas

as do I. However, there are city-wide issues you can't avoid, like:

1) If your house is burglarized, will the police show up, at all?

2) When you call 911 for a real emergency, how long before someone shows up?

3) If you get robbed on the street, do the cops show up?


Me and a lot of other families. You are clearly unfamiliar with the city if you think it's just constant shootings.


8/31 2 injured in Oakland freeway shooting https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/eastbound-i-580-oaklan...

8/27 Man, 27, shot and killed while working in East Oakland https://www.ktvu.com/news/man-shot-killed-while-working-east...

8/21 Two arrested in Oakland after fatal quadruple shooting https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-deadly-quadruple-shooting-...

8/19 Families are grieving after a shooting over the weekend in Oakland left two people dead and seriously injured https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/family-grieves-victims-o...

8/16 An Oakland family is heartbroken after a woman was fatally shot https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-family-dev...

8/15 The mother of a 17-year-old who was shot and killed in Oakland https://www.ktvu.com/video/1501260

8/6 3-year-old dad of two was shot in the head by stray bullet while sleeping at his East Oakland home. https://abc7news.com/post/exclusive-family-opens-after-oakla...

7/17 An 8-year-old boy continues to fight for his life after getting caught in the crossfire of a freeway gun battle in Oakland https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hwkYI5mSX0

7/15 Oakland rapper shot, killed during meet and greet https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/east-bay/oakland-rappe...

7/12 Alameda neighbors mourn loss of family shot to death https://www.ktvu.com/video/1484502

6/20 15 shot after a ‘sideshow’ took over a peaceful Juneteenth celebration in Oakland https://apnews.com/article/oakland-juneteenth-celebration-sh...

6/19 Family of Skyline High School student Nathan Chanthavong mourning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na0TeTlI2nw

...

Doesn't seem AT ALL like a place to raise a family to me. Go look up the last time there was a shooting in Portola Valley or Cupertino.


You're right - turns out as someone who's lived in Oakland for more than a decade I didn't know what it was like. Sometimes you need an outside perspective. Thanks.


People without the means to move away?




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