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The concept separation of concerns I apply every where, and I like my dashcam not connected to any cloud, if I ever needed a footage, I’ll just take it from the sdcard.


> I’ll just take it from the sdcard

What about in the situation of a theft?


Dashcams are generally for recording collisions, rather than thefts.

After all, if you're parking in a high crime area - would you leave your smartphone on display in the front windscreen?



Then it would not contain any traffic accident footage?


I will check the garage CCTV cam.


Except for malls, grocery stores, events, train station, movie theaters... Work...


If you live in an area with a high probability of getting your car stolen, you better protect your investment properly and install a gnss tracker, not just it is more reliable, accurate, and use way less data on your cellular plan, but also you can hide it and conceal it in a location (like near the engine) that you have a better chance to find your car before the tracker is found, unlike a dashcam, that will obviously consume more data, but also the first thing will be thrown out of the window after the successful robbery.


Yeah, you could work around this with anti-tamper APIs and trip-wires and tech solutions to secure your phone.

But then you're playing an arms-race game against inventive thieves with jammers and portable Faraday cages.

Another solution is legal. Make a dashcam phone a "Protected Insurance Entity" or some shit. Maybe have it always streaming as part of some Citizens on Patrol Star Watcher campaign. Bump the punishment to federal level insurance fraud.

Jesus, this fucking future.

Obviously, we will save lives, and that is great. It just takes one drunk driver and one teddy bear falling from the sky.

I imagined a future hopping between cyber corps if you have that power.

But this feels different.


You might be able to get your employer to share parking lot footage?



You don't want your dashcam uploaded to the cloud because if you caused the accident, you need to be able to delete the evidence.


There are anecdotes if minor crashes there the other person threatens the person with the dash cam to hand over footage.

Good luck with getting stabbed.


Fine, I'll tape a knife to the dashcam in case of emergency.

(this is a joke, HN)


Sounds very British!


I like this British musician named Jake Bugg. He's got a song about going to this house party at some criminal's house and one line is about a friend taking him aside and warning him, gravely, that everyone there's got a knife. It almost ruins the song as an American, because the line's just hilarious. "Everyone has a knife? What, you mean like literally any gathering of adults whatsoever that doesn't have bouncers patting people down and/or metal detectors? Everyone has a knife at the grocery store for god's sake!"

(Not literally everyone, of course, but it's entirely normal, non-threatening, and fairly common to carry a pocket knife or knife-including-multitool in the US—anywhere you go that's not screening for metal objects, some of the people there probably have knives, it's not on anyone's radar as something to be worried about. It's like being warned that everyone's wearing underwear, or something)


They're not talking about multitools.

These sort of things are what they mean: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=zombie+knife&iax=images&ia=images


Oh, yikes, fixed-blades and things as long as shortish machetes? OK, yeah, people don't usually carry those here. Folding pocket knives in the 3"-6" range are common, but not fixed or very-long blades.


Yeah, anything larger than a pocketknife is explicitly illegal to carry in the UK, plus a whole bunch of random moral panic stuff like nunchucks. What the verse means is people carrying knives with intent; that you're entering a subculture where people might stab you in a drunken argument that turns into a fight.

(Used to be Glasgow, these days it's London, always young men in "gang" contexts)

This means the original "tape a knife to the dashcam" gag would be illegal. For car self-defence purposes you're better off with a tyre iron, "breaker bar", socket extender or something else that's a plausible car tool that you just happen to grab.


> What the verse means is people carrying knives with intent; that you're entering a subculture where people might stab you in a drunken argument that turns into a fight.

Right, yeah, I got the intent, it just comes off real goofy in a place where sometimes you see people open-carrying guns, and a hell of a lot more are concealed-carrying, and I was certainly imagining long-side-of-normal folding pocket knives, not something closer to combat knives.

Thanks for explaining, the context does help.


Anecdata is not data.


Nothing in the settings shows any way to upload the videos to the cloud.


Not necessarily the video itself -although I don’t even trust google studio app-, but the meta data google will collect: when did you use the cam, duration, location, and other data that will be collected “to enhance the service” that’s already crap from the get go.


I'm all for privacy, but if you have your Pixel phone on you it will already send a ton of data to Google, even without using it as a dashcam.


but not use my camera


There's a good chance that it'll save to a folder which is synced with Google Drive.


Cloud backups are e2e encrypted. If you mean it's using a mechanism other than cloud backups, that wouldn't make sense because the user would have to at least agree to their storage being used.




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