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How is this any different than running youtube in a Firefox container? I feel like it's a lot of reinventing the wheel if you have to do things like Sponsorblock, Adblock, etc. all over again instead of just relying on your current browser setup.


You can route all traffic through community invidious instances so Google can not even track what content is consumed by your IP.

It also automatically skips all ads, even sponsor segments in videos.

You also avoid needing to have a Google account to keep up with subscriptions, and you avoid content suppression as the sponsor-prioritized advertiser-friendly algorithms are turned off.


> so Google can not even track what content is consumed by your IP.

"Google uses IPs to track you" has been theorized since 2010 or maybe even before, but I've never seen any study or evidence that it actually does so. So, so much of the internet is built on NAT, shared IP space, and short-lived IP addresses that it really doesn't seem like there is any ROI in having engineers keep their IP correlation tech in service and tracking its efficacy.


IP addresses are frequently kept and stored to show users their active sessions. Are you sincerely doubting that a company like Google doesn't or can't use this information in other ways that support their core business? You don't have to call it "tracking", but I can't think of a better name.


What is a scenario where this actually happens, though?

Imagine two people live in the same residence. One is extremely privacy conscious, doesn’t even have a Google account, and the other doesn’t even run an ad blocker. Both have the same phones on the same OS version, and for sake of argument, both are on the same ipv4.

Does this mean that, if the privacy conscious person opens a private browsing session on their phone and visits some websites, they start getting ads their roommate should be getting? At what point would Google know “this is the same person, show their targeted ads”?


I've seen some ads related to my colleague's search queries at work in incognito mode.


Hm. Well what versions of Chrome are they running?

/s point taken. :)


Lookup pantopoclick. Surveillance capitalism companies are very good at uniquely identifying individual users based on a combination of unique device metadata, geography, networks, etc.

Tor Browser in Whonix in a Qubes VM is recommended when you need reasonable privacy while interacting with services purpose built to track users.


Sounds like an extension that could proxy traffic by website would solve your problem? I don't know why you can't create a google account just for yt so your subscriptions are contained to the firefox yt container.


YouTube would still need my credit card details to disable ads, thus uniquely identifying all my viewing habits to me so they can adjust my feed and recommendations to the liking of their partners.

Also I do not use proprietary operating systems so I would be stuck using a webapp on my TV which is pretty awful UX.

Hard pass.

YouTube forces users to choose between privacy and supporting creators. I will not give up privacy, so it is up to creators to upload to privacy respecting platforms if they want my money.


Are you sure you can't just use adblock in a firefox container?


That would do nothing to stop the tracking issues.


Apps minimize distraction. Plus you can now install it on devices that don't support browser use cases e.g Android TV etc.


How do apps minimize distraction? YT is a major source of distraction whether you wrap it in a shell app or not.


Well, for starters an app is not yet another open tab in your periphery screaming for you to check it out.


No because it's yet another open app.


You don't have to execute YouTubes javascript to watch videos.




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