To try to steelman the argument, I believe the main point can be expressed as follows;
1. China is trying to censor Wikimedia at the world stage for their political purposes
2. Some Social Justice related groups have similar outlooks towards using censorship against their opponents. If we don't stop them, we will have their preferred flavour of censorship imposed on us, with widespread suffering of non-conformers. This will follow the pattern of Communist China during the cultural revolution.
The reason for the deliberate vagueness is that the idea is overly dramatized and only tangentially related to the topic at hand.
We already have the censorship they complain about; it is social mores. Decent people don't use terms derogatory terms towards strangers in public places. They don't scrutinize the background of every Oxy patient in order to determine whether or not they deserve to die.
As for out groups being ostracized from society; well yes? I think that's generally the case everywhere. If you don't fit into the morals of a larger society, you aren't going to have a good time.
The implicit threat, though, is nonsense. Communist China in the 1960s was a complete top-down command society and Mao was using his cult of personality to try to regain influence (potentially influenced by the Gang of Four). Is there anyone in the US who actually has that kind of influence over all of society? If anything, the only person I know who claims influence over a portion of American Society is DJT - and he can't even convince his followers to get vaccinated without getting booed.
I don't really feel much sympathy for the argument.
Given that HN tries to foster discussion, I was hoping that "you would". You know, in your own words. Surely if you feel strongly enough about something, you'd be capable of discussing your viewpoint instead of just dropping a few links at random.
Given that the OP was has been flagged into oblivion, I can only guess they were talking about parallelism between the Cultural Revolution in China and the cultural revolution happening right now in the USA and spilling all over several Western countries. One crucial difference is that in the West, the worst that can happen to you is getting fired. In Communist China, thousand were murdered in cruel ways. This hasn't happened in Western democracies and I very much doubt it would, in a foreseeable future - because the basic sets of values are different.
> cultural revolution happening right now in the USA
The OP was attacking the left, but they have no political power. The cultural revolution is the reactionary, populist right-wing one - they recently ran the White House, they control a major political party, and they run many states, such as Texas and Florida.
> One crucial difference is that in the West, the worst that can happen to you is getting fired. In Communist China, thousand were murdered in cruel ways.
Getting fired, losing sole source of income, contemplating suicide and spiraling into depression are all issues that liberals fight to eradicate.
I would’nt wish this to the worst enemies, even if they’re racist or bigoted or whatever. We have laws and criminal justice system.
Do you also have hundreds of gb’s of footage of police brutality against minorities and white supremacy marches? Or is it just footage of minorities struggling against a system that doesn’t work for them?
Please do upload a torrent. These videos should be kept alive and present in the discussion to guard against the obvious dangers. Regardless of what you think about disinformation, censorship does not serve our interests. Instead of deleting these videos, they should be hidden behind a clickthrough that provides the missing context.
