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What about the effects of #Metoo, racial injustice protests, LGTBQ+ marriage, transgender protections (and discrimination - outrage results in bad laws too), gun rights outrage, voter ID laws, etc etc etc.

Lots is happening.

Also, outrage doesn't need laws to be effective: Plenty of corporations do things that aren't legally required, in order to please the public. The NFL didn't have to address racial injustice, but it did. Bad things happen too - lynchings, for example.



> gun rights outrage, voter ID laws,

What positive changes have there been about gun control since the Brady Bill in 1994?

What positive changes have there been about voter suppression ever?


I didn't say the changes are positive, just that public opinion or outrage causes changes.

Voting rights certainly have advanced many times, including suffrage, voting rights for African-Americans in the 1960s, and smaller advances like motor-voter and mail-in ballots since then. The last few years have been awful, though.


Of those that have made a difference, the majority are via laws, which was parent's point.


The GP says,

> Todays outrage is managed ressource going nowhere.

I'm saying that it definitely went somewhere, it created major changes, including laws.


> History shows that outrage does something, when it turns into laws. Todays outrage is managed ressource going nowhere.


Maybe we're reading it differently? I read:

'Historically, outrage has accomplished things by resulting in laws. Today's outrage is ineffectual because it isn't resulting in laws.'


This is what i ment. Sorry for being imprecise.

I would argue, that this is actually the goal of todays outrage culture- not to change things for the better within the legal framework of a democracy, but to keep the emotional core of a "movement" going.


> I would argue, that this is actually the goal of todays outrage culture- not to change things for the better within the legal framework of a democracy, but to keep the emotional core of a "movement" going.

I agree about the priority: It's a reactionary, ideological culture/movement; they need to be against something; members need to demonstrate their ideological adherence by being more and more extreme. Passing outrageous laws can be part of that. Passing constructive laws by bringing people to the table, listening to their needs, and creating consensus would indeed undermine the movement, IMHO.




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