Alleged backdoor. There are a lot of allegations against Huawei but not a lot (if any) concrete evidence.

The issue is that we have to make a decision under uncertainty. And fast.

Context matters as well. Look how China treats its citizens, and those abroad who critique the CCP. Look how it has no ethical issue to control and spy upon every Chinese person within its borders. It has no state philosophy that would forbid it. Why would you think they would not spy abroad? And again, CCP members controlling Huawei is a fact.

Look how the doctrine of ip theft has been pushed even in past plans like china 2020, and how often unlicensed and nearly identical products and tech showed up after being stolen by someone. And Chinese politicians masterfully promising betterment and market access to EU politicians and giving nothing in the end.

There will never be a smoking gun. But to say its based on lies without evidence is, i think, misleading.

For years all this has been happening. And the damage to non Chinese tech and industry has been huge.

That is why it needs to be up to every country to choose whether to make deals with Huawei and the CCP or not. Judge the evidence, and circumstances.

If you wait too long, the consequences are clear. The US has decided it has seen enough, and Huawei is not a sincere market participant.

THEN, you have to take strong measures. If there is ip theft. If there even is spying, THEN you can not fight it by half measures. It doesnt work. Huawei denies and goes their merry way until it is untouchable.

Its a game of chance, not certainty.

> The issue is that we have to make a decision under uncertainty. And fast.

I'm sorry, this sounds like "WMDs in Iraq" all over again.

> For years all this has been happening. And the damage to non Chinese tech and industry has been huge.

Not really, it was a conscious decision by most Western companies to go and produce in China. Fully aware that they will (voluntarily and via ip theft) transfer knowledge, they still chose to do it because the profit margins were so enormous. The Chinese actually hacking and siphoning off IP is relatively new, something that previously was the NSA's monopoly.

> If there even is spying, THEN you can not fight it by half measures.

Are you suggesting the EU should go into a full out trade war with the US to convince them to stop the spying?

Thank you for making clear that your previous claims were bogus.

Google CEO told trump that Google works for USA military. Trump bragged about it on Twitter. Other US companies are on PRISM project as well.