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I can't help but notice that you, complaining about “free speech”, have “88” at the end of your name.

Wonder what kind of speech (which you only defend by its supposed legality) you're concerned about being banned.



Maybe they were born in 1988?

Maybe they play the piano (88 keys)?

Maybe they're a ham radio operator ("love and kisses")?

Maybe they're a big Kill Bill fan (Crazy 88s)?

Maybe they think it's a lucky number (Chinese culture)?

There's a million possibilities[1] besides this baseless ad hominem attack in which you're implying they're a neo-nazi. This moral panic over white supremacists supposedly hiding under every bed is really tiring.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/88_(number)


TIL "88" stands for a neo-nazi thing. Lucky 10000 I guess.

A little bit of trivia: turns out in France a "département" is a country subdivision which receives two-digit codes, and it's quite common for people to include that in their online identity pseudonyms as a suffix. 88 is the Vosges department[0].

EDIT: Given the ambiguity, I do not support the use of the "88" thing at all, yet one cannot detract from the fact that cultural context and localization is a tricky subject. Even as a location thing I was not supporting it anyway as it's a terrible practice, being leaky information-wise.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vosges_(department)


Are you seriously implying that someone is a nazi just because they have the number 88 in their name? I have the number 87 in my name, what does that tell you about me?

You're a perfect example of what they're complaining about. They've said nothing even remotely offensive, just that they don't agree with shared block lists, and you've already decided that they're wrong and a nazi. I've seen people get added to shared block lists on twitter just because they commented on a thread saying that they both political parties in the US should work together instead of being so devisive, so it's not like only trolls and abusive people get added to those lists.

I hope you enjoy your self-imposed bubble, where everyone you disagree with is a nazi.


I don't think everyone I disagree is a Nazi. It's just… easy to lose patience with the “free speech” line of argument when so many people invoking it are doing so in bad faith.


> easy to lose patience with the “free speech” line of argument when so many people invoking it are doing so in bad faith.

Many, many people believe in unfettered free speech. You should assume anyone who supports free speech is doing so in good faith as it's historically been the norm.

"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your right to say it".


Also, not everybody you disagree with acts in bad faith. Nazis, communists, anarchists, you name it: most of them believe their views of society will lead to a betterment of it. They don't adhere to their principles just because they want to fuck with others.


Nazi ideology is explicitly about fucking with others. It is about separating people who they disapprove of and killing them. If you're trying to normalise Nazis, you are one of them, and the 88 dogwhistle doesn't look good.


I think all ideas should be discussed in an open forum. If you think some people may become nazis, communists or pastafarians because those ideas appeal to them, it's because you're afraid the ideas you're trying to push on aren't that good to begin with. (Posting from another account because that one has been banned for no reason I can discern.)


>Nazi ideology is explicitly about fucking with others.

It's about building a national socialist state. Some people might feel that it's the best way to organize large number of people. Just because they hold that view doesn't mean that they are somehow bad people or have bad intentions. By itself it doesn't require any fucking with others but since most such people are also authoritarians and fascists it has lead to that in the past.

>It is about separating people who they disapprove of and killing them.

It doesn't necessarily require killing people you disapprove of. But one of the goals of nazis is to remove people of other ethnicities from their sphere of influence.

>If you're trying to normalise Nazis

Discussing something isn't normalizing it.

>you are one of them

Discussing national socialism doesn't mean that one supports their cause or shares any of their beliefs.

>and the 88 dogwhistle doesn't look good.

The 88 in his name could be reference to literally anything. It could be some athlete's number or birth year. It could be just because he likes the number. Could be anything really. You automatically assuming that it means that the guy is a nazi is just pants on retarded.


>I don't think everyone I disagree is a Nazi.

Just everyone who values freedom of speech then?

>so many people invoking it are doing so in bad faith.

You really think people who support freedom of speech are doing so in bad faith?


You say that as if supporting free speech was somehow part of the nazi platform.


Free speech is of course not something fascists want, but they will weaponise it to their own ends while it exists in law or in concept.




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