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I had an interview this morning which was via Skype, which I don't use. Gave my MacBook Pro r2013 to the missus, so all I had was the Android app on my Nexus 6p and the new app for Linux on my XPS 13.

I did some tests beforehand and the Linux app doesn't even connect to the Skype Test account. So I used the Android app and the voice quality was so bad I had to riff on some things. We reconnected 2/3 times and it was uniformly awful. Never had these problems on my 80/20 fibre connection with Hangouts.

Skype is awful, the Linux app is crap, it needs to die in a fire.

EDIT: I even enabled upnpd on my gateway router in case that was the problem - nope, still fubar.



I will never understand the idea in Microsoft that having UPnP running or being willing to open all kinds of jacked up ports is an acceptable user experience. UPnP is nice to have but it's difficult to find a router that has it, and even so, I've used Google Hangouts and Facetime over my network with zero issues, what makes Skype so star spangled awesome that it needs forwarded ports?


Huh, I've never seen a router (this includes ISP provided DOCSIS/DSL/FTTH units) without UPnP support. It seems very well supported?


I have upnp turned off because security. Whatever relies on upnp without fallback should burn in hell.


I've recently switched to UniFi gear and the UniFi Controller does not provide a GUI option to enable UPnP. There's a thread[0] on the forums that asks for it, but it's only implemented in the beta version of the controller.

The UniFi Security Gateway supports UPnP just fine, but you have to enable it through the commandline (and have it blown away every time the controller reprovisions it) or add it to config.properties.json so that the controller will include it when provisioning.

Since neither option is easily discoverable, the USG essentially doesn't support it. You really have to know where to look to find it.

[0] https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UniFi-Routing-Switching-Featur...


At the time I found my Buffalo N300, it was pretty few and far between (at least for consumer grade hardware, probably more widely found on enterprise).


Every router I've bought in the last decade has had UPnP, and I don't look for it. Citation needed on the "difficult to find"


The last router I bought (a UniFi Security Gateway) can do UPnP, but the (non-beta) UniFi Controller doesn't expose that option. You can enable it through the commandline on the router though.

I'd certainly call the option "difficult to find". ;)


"Difficult to find the setting on your non-consumer router" is different from "difficult to find a router that has it".


I've owned eight or so over the years, 2 of them had it, one of which was the most recent one I bought explicitly for it. YMMV


For clarity the router I used was my own Linux based one, so it wasn't off the shelf. I'd have happily port forwarded it, but the android version didn't need it so why the Linux one?


I've not used Skype so I can't say, but anyone who's used an XBox console online knows about the port forwarding nightmares you have to go through to make the things work correctly. UPnP was the only way to make 2 consoles work at the same time.




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