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Not allowed stances and opinions are certainly a facet of fascism, and the connection I stated earlier is sound. You may want to re-read what I wrote earlier if you think I described someone or some people as fascists.

FTR I don't have a problem with consensual sexual acts (including groping).



Again, you demonstrate your lack of understanding of the word "fascist".

You're saying it's "fascist" to not tolerate Trump sexually assaulting women, just because he holds the opinion (and openly brags about it) that it's ok for him to do that because he's rich, therefore we are required to respect and tolerate his opinion.

FTR, Trump was not bragging about "consensual sexual acts", he was bragging about non-consensual sexual assault, and you certainly know that. Why are you being so evasive and coy, trying to divert the conversation, when we both know exactly what I'm talking about? Address Trump's own words that are on the record, not another straw man. And please don't parrot the line about "locker room talk".

Do you tolerate Trump non-consensually grabbing women by the "pussy", and do you respect his stated opinion that he can get away with it because he's rich, and believe that's valid and tolerable, and anyone who thinks otherwise is a "fascist"?


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Thank you too, for also proving that there are actually Trump supporters out there who approve of his sexual harassment of women.


Letting someone do something to you is NOT consenting. Are you saying that rape victims consent to sex when they let their rapists penetrate them?

Despite your quotation marks, you actually misquoted him, and left out a lot of extremely relevant context.

<s>It must take a lot of bravery to stand up and carry the water for Trump's right to commit (and brag about) sexual assault by misquoting him out of context.</s>

Read the entire literal quote in context:

"You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

Please explain how it is consensual if Trump doesn't "even wait", and he thinks he can do "anything"?

Would you tell your daughter it was OK for Trump to kiss her and grab her by the pussy and anything else he wanted to do, without waiting for her consent, because he was "a star"?

I wouldn't let you or any other Trump surrogate near my daughter, because you have a lot to learn about consent. You and Trump both need to read this before kissing and grabbing any more women by the pussy without waiting for consent:

Consent, explained for Donald Trump. Trump and his surrogates don’t seem to understand how sexual assault works.

https://www.vox.com/2016/10/19/13330140/trump-consent-explai...

The FBI now defines rape as "penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim." When it comes to sexual assault, like the unwanted kissing or groping that Trump is accused of, different states have different legal definitions of "consent" — but consent is always relevant.

Legal definitions can vary, but the fundamental concept of consent is incredibly simple: Does the other person actually want you to do the things you are doing to her?

When Trump says women "let" him do "anything," he’s not describing consensual activity. He’s describing, at best, touching a woman without encountering physical resistance from her — or using his power and influence to subtly coerce her into not resisting. Coercion is not consent either, from a legal perspective or a moral one.

There are a lot of reasons victims might not physically resist or even verbally object to unwanted sexual touching. They might simply have no time to react (time that Trump said he doesn’t give them: "Just kiss. I don’t even wait"). They might be confused or in shock. They might be afraid of physical violence, emotional abuse, or other repercussions (like being fired) if they don’t comply.

That’s why brute physical force doesn’t determine whether an attack counts as sexual assault. Unwanted and nonconsensual touching does.


Thank you for proving that there are actually Trump supporters out there who approve of his sexual harassment of women.




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