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> Why you make your argument not taking into account the actual science?

Why make this about me?

Personally I really don't get AGW but I very much want to reduce oil consumption which I feel we should anyway, I reuse and recycle quite a bit etc.

> Why I have to listen to some "wealthy warmings" and not real scientists?

Still there is a massive problem where anyone who cares enough to read the news but doesn't have time or possibility to read the reports will see massive support from celebrities who then go on to travel by private jet to climate conferences. This does something to people.

Why is it that everyone feel they are doing the environment a service by downvoting and patronizing everyone that asks, telling that we are all either stupid or shills.



> Why make this about me?

Because you're the one making arguments against GW using celebrities and not the actual science


Trying to help you guys with a massive perception problem here and this is what I get back.

I'm not anti AGW. I cannot say I am convinced myself although I work in renewables(need to find and sit down with the numbers some day I fear, none of the AGW proponents seem to care about sharing those though although many care to rubber stamp and label.) But just because I am not convinced myself I hope that doesn't prevent me from pointing out obvious problems that is seen by anyone but that nobody in the party seems to care about?


BTW : just came back and upvoted you since I de no reason why you should be below zero either.

That said I fail to understand the voting on both sides here :-/




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