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Pretty sad seeing people take pleasure in the company failing. See past your opinion about it's leader. At the end of the day, it's the company that brought vehicle electrification to the masses and has acted cash cow for SpaceX, Starlink and Neuralink.


> See past your opinion about it's leader.

This is like asking Mrs. Lincoln what she thought about the play. The scope of the (financial and physical) damage by Musk's government meddling is breathtaking, is ongoing, and will echo for generations.


He's not just the leader, he's the primary beneficiary, and he's a blatant white supremacist. He's arguably responsible for the deaths of over 1 million people world wide from his short tenure shutting down USAID[0]. So yeah, I'd say its more than fine to take pleasure in his failings.

[0] https://www.cgdev.org/blog/update-lives-lost-usaid-cuts


Is Tesla really failing? They have $40 billion cash at hand. More than some legacy automobile market cap.


They're clearly not failing, but if you read comments here or on reddit, lots of people want them to, and have wanted them to for a decade.


Not nearly as sad as people getting emotionally invested in corporations.

Add why should anyone look past their opinions about the leader?

We have the saying “the fish rots from the head” for a good reason. Tesla has been rotten ever since Elon got involved.


> Add why should anyone look past their opinions about the leader?

Because it's the most advanced car manufacturing in the US... Virtually the only successful EV maker outside of China, and it provides over 100,000 jobs worldwide.


Actions have consequences. Maybe an upshot of this is that people will learn not to put all their eggs in the POS’s basket.


> 2.9% + 30¢

Very expensive!


Isn't this pretty much what every processor everywhere charges? I have been out of the industry for 10+ years but I remember this being pretty standard.


It ain't by much, but we're a tiny bit cheaper than Stripe when you consider how much they charge for Billing (.7% for them vs .65% for us). And pretty much every Stripe integration uses Stripe Billing (unless they pair with a 3rd part billing SaaS)


> pretty much every Stripe integration uses Stripe Billing

Isn't Stripe Billing only for subscriptions?


Stripe Billing handles subscriptions and usage based billing now. Most software products fall in one of those two categories, or sometimes both. As a result, most software companies are paying more than 2.9% + $0.30 for Stripe, closer to 3.6% + $.30.

To only pay Stripe 2.9% + $.30 they'd need to only use Stripe just for charges, and either build their own billing engine (usually poor use of time) or use a 3rd party SaaS.


Ahhh so this is mainly for subscription software companies? That also did not come across.

As we approach Black Friday in the US, I'm thinking of the giant volume of e-commerce transactions that are not subscriptions (or usage-based), and of which Stripe gets a cut. It sounds like you are not angling for that part of the market?


Not in the immediate term at least. Our initial focus is deliver an amazing experience for software builders.


That's Stripe's transaction fee, not theirs


When Stripe entered, people stopped caring about the cost of payment processing. I don't work in the industry anymore, but Stripe became rather popular at the time where I worked on online payments. We looked at it, because the Stripe API and services are really nice, but the cost is just insane.

We where never even close to 2.9% on credit cards, and we'd certainly never consider paying 30¢. Part of that is working out of the EU, that caps your credit card fee, so around 1% and 0.10EUR per transaction is closer to the standard. Then you can start negotiating lower raters from there, depending on the number of transaction you make.


Don't think there is a cheaper alternative to stripe. Polar and Dodo is 4% + 40¢


Braintree says it is 2.89% + $0.29 USD. Specifically priced at one bip and one cent cheaper lol


Name "Braintree" is much worse than "Stripe" so them being one bip and one cent cheaper is completely cancelled out.


Standard.


Almost one hour down now. What differs this from recent AWS and Cloudflare issues is that this appears to be a global issue?


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