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It won't be "happening" until Slack, Teams, and Discord leave Electron behind. They are the apps that need to be open 24/7.

It's not entirely clear what the connection is.

We're not doing Electron because some popular software also using it. We're doing Electron because the ability to create truly cross-platform interfaces with the web stack is more important to us than 300 MB of user memory.


> web stack is more important to us than 300 MB of user memory.

May I never have to use or work on your project's software.


> We're doing Electron because the ability to create truly cross-platform interfaces with the web stack is more important to us than 300 MB of user memory.

It's closer to 1GB but trust me, everyone is well aware of your priorities.


"I would rather spend the user's money than my engineer's time"

Teams works similarly in browser tab and "natively". Slack was similar if I remember correctly.

You should check the memory use of that browser tab. You’re not saving much either way running in a browser or in Electron, which is effectively a browser.

I only ever use Discord in a browser window.

If the page is lazy loading content then the local ctrl+f is not going to work, obviously.

If you’re hinting at an argument about whether lazy loading content should exist, that’s a separate discussion. In my experience, pages that override ctrl+f do it for a good reason


I think I've seen one page override ctrl-f for good reason -- it was a page that lazy loaded literally millions of lines of text that wouldn't have fit into RAM.

Every single other page that does it just wastes my time. It's always a super janky slow implementation that somehow additionally fails to actually search through all the text on the page.


then instead of lazy loading load chunks and paginate it like we used to

Even in those cases I'd prefer to just be able to natively search the content that has been lazy loaded. I've run into more than one website where the search functionality they bound to control-f is horrible.

On Firefox, the “Prevent Shortcut Takeover” can be used to prevent websites from binding to Ctrl+F/Cmd+F: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/prevent-short....

That is a great question for those in power to figure out before the masses get upset enough to harm them.

Content creator Michael Palmisano of Guitargate shares his experience of having his verified business account on Instagram deactivated without any warning, explanation, or clear path for appeal

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It's been more than 10+ years that I've been able to Option+Click the green button to fill the screen. Works for any app, and always has, unless that app explicitly disallows resizing. That's not recent.


Wow, I learned something new.

Why is it that some of the most useful features in Apple products are impossible to find on your own? I recently also learned about "three finger swipe to undo" in iOS instead of shaking the damn thing like it owes me money.


The video you linked is from 2019. A lot has changed with Thunderbolt capability and the Studios now have enough ports/bandwidth to handle audio processing needs to multiple boxes.


Like I did with regex some years earlier, I worked on a project for a few weeks that required constant interactions with jq, and through that I managed to lock in the general shape of queries so that my google hints became much faster.

Of course, this doesn't matter now, I just ask an LLM to make the query for me if it's so complex that I can't do it by hand within seconds.


Respectfully, whether it "actually happens" is irrelevant. We want to prevent it from happening.


I remember my parents complaining about how expensive concessions were when I was a kid in the 90s too, and sometimes we would hit the gas station first and stuff snacks in my mom's bag to sneak them in to the theater. They also complained about prices if we couldn't do the Tuesday matinee.

Not sure anything's changed. The movie theater experience has always been expensive and I think your bill is pretty much in line with inflation.


> The movie theater experience has always been expensive.

I don't think they were that expensive in the 1930s and 40s, maybe into the 50s. Supposedly, in the 1930s, they were around 25 cents, which $5 in today's money.

We've just seriously gone of the rails on pricing for some reason, but it probably started before I was born (in 75) and has just gotten a lot worse over time (so in the 90s, they were expensive, but are even more expensive today).


Why are you comparing prices from a time when most people in the US weren't even born yet?

Comparing with the 90s seems reasonable because nothing is dramatically different about the experience except there are generally better seats now.


If someone says “it’s always been like that”, I definitely take that as a historical pre-birth statement.


Luckily I'm near the median age, so it actually has been like that for most people. :)


> And yet same specs iPad + Magic keyboard will cost you twice as much

It's not about specs, it's about capability. You compare the Neo to the wrong iPad.

The base model iPad + keyboard folio match the MacBook Neo price, which seems to be intentional. iPadOS requires less resources to run but is functionally equivalent outside of being able to run arbitrary programs.

Which makes me wonder who the Neo is for. If someone wants to build software they should be paying more money. The average person is fine with an iPad, and it will even give them a touchscreen, the Neo won't.


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