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So ... Your response is basically YOLO?


So uhm, mind explaining what the hell Godel's proof has to do with God?


Look up Godel's ontological proof before getting all ragey on me. Of course, philistines hardly understand the concept of any proof and end up attacking the conclusion. So the point is usually lost on the intended audience.


Someone's insecurity is showing; might wanna hide it buddy

I'm not exactly a Musk fan boy, but it's clear he's just showing off a setup that they're working on over there. He says in the video, in case you're hard of hearing, that they put together existing technology to experiment with this UI. I didn't here him even insinuate that they're inventing it let a lone claim it.

Your mal-a-tete with people like Jobs and Musk isn't that they're taking all the credit - can't say the same for Jobs, but Musk seems to big up his team whenever he can. Your problem is that they demonstrate that the engineering isn't everything. At the end of the day you still have to attract people and people don't just drop their panties at the sight of new tech without the nuances of good presentation. Rather than PMS on hacker news, may I suggest some life coaching, sir?


Am I the only one who thinks this is unnecessarilly rude and abhorent?

The lady was just doing her job for duck sake. For someone whose main point of argument is that they show humanity, you seem to have very little of your own.


Was he rude? Yes. No excuse for that. But what he dead on right? Absolutely.


Are you saying there was no other way to pass on the exact same message with the exact same effect without being a total cunt about it?


You know guinea worm is more frequently contracted from drinking water than through the skin, right?


because?


Irrational probably.

Possibly I can trace this back to the fact that the 1st people to start using them were mostly douche bags.....

Maybe there's something deeper about having no respect for someone who considers themselves so busy that they can't find a place to stand and have a conversation. At least if I have to over hear a bit of their tedious phone call I do it as I pass them. Rather than walking behind / in front of them for the entire conversation.

I've never really invested a lot of time in thinking about "why" I dislike it. It is just an immediate reaction.

ps: I have the same sort of reaction to people who engage in long and useless phone conversations on public transport.


Association. Most people associate constantly wearing a Bluetooth headset with douchey, self-important MBA types. There's nothing wrong with the tech per se, it just got adopted by an unpopular crowd first.


I wonder if eyeglass-like wearable computers will suffer for the same reason.


I haven't actually ran into someone wearing them yet so I can't report on my personal response.... but I suspect I'll dislike them instantly.


I think the point of the concept is actually an antithesis to doubt. It basically says you can believe x is x, yet continue to treat x like y. You could say this is "doubt", but then you contradict your belief that x is x. Just like the sterilized bedpan example. If you truly believe that it is indeed sterilized, why are you hesitant to drink from it?


>> "fellow man"

hahaha, that's rich; "fellow man"


Apparently, you're the less learned one. Hong Kong was a former property of HRH and still maintains, both culturally and politically, the civic values from their predecessors. As a matter of fact, judging from what I saw last time I was over there, one could reasonably argue that they handle civil dissent much better than us here in the states, both on the protesters' side and on the government's side.


I've lived in Hong Kong for over a decade so know it's culture. It's not that dissimilar from Singapore in its western leanings.

Hong Kong's history is irrelevant as they have an extradition treaty with the USA. Any normal person would not seek asylum in a country where this was the case.


Only on the surface is it close to Singapore. When you are a part of what political pundits have always hyped up as "the biggest threat to the USA/the next superpower", things change -- attitudes change. "Western leanings" sure, I'll give you that. But that is not equivalent to being pro-American. In fact, if pro-west meant just abiding by the majority of Western countries' attitudes, then on this matter pro-west might as well be equivalent to anti-USA. (I've lived in HK as well).

And the USA has basically an extradition treaty with every country. They are not always followed, either (granted, I am not an expert on this matter). Of course, they might extradite him, but I don't think it's as clear-cut as you make it out.


USA does not have an extradition with basically every country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_extraditi...

It has been widely reported just how bizarre it was to pick a country like Hong Kong given their recent cooperation with the USA.


Basically every country that he can probably go to under the conditions he made (medical), without rousing suspicion, has an extradition treaty with the USA. Certainly if he wanted to go to Afghanistan for "epilepsy treatment", it'd be weird, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extradition_law_in_the_United_S...

Which one's good? If you really cared about the extradition treaty so much, you'd have a problem going anywhere (given his situation, and I think even for the typical tourist most countries on that list are countries you might not even ever think about visiting. Though I've admittedly visit quite a few of those, so I may be wrong on that point).


Exactly. I also read that the gov't there is currently revamping their asylum rules and that for now anybody who applies for asylum can stay until the rules are sorted out, which may take quite a long time... I don't think he's done so, but it may be a more savvy location than you'd think.


I think people have invested themselves emotionally to this 10000 hours nonsense, so any mention of natural gifted-ness sets them off in a tirade, not because of any analytical opposition, but because their egos are somewhat threatened by the prospect that someone may be naturally better at something than they are.

Unfortunately, 10000 hours yadah yadah is not a "new finding" beyond putting a nice round number on a phenomenon that I'm sure your mommies and daddies told you when you were a kid - PRACTICE. Deliberate practice? Does "try doing the harder stuff" sound familiar? The fact that if you practice areas that you're not very strong at you will get stronger has been known for centuries. "Naturally gifted" people aren't those who are experts, neither are they those who have the best technique. 10000 hours on the piano will not make you Beethoven, neither will 100000 hours. Beethoven was Beethoven for many reasons - well known as a prodigy, highly regarded by the culture of his time, etc - merely playing the piano well didn't make him remarkable. For a less ancient example, take Jimmy Page. Anyone who plays guitar will acknowledge that Page's playing was quite sloppy. It's not technique that I would teach to someone. But he's Jimmy freakin' Page. The genius of Zeppelin was in the innovation. They brought a new sound, at the time - and they were really cool too, but don't tell anyone.

So, to wrap up, practice makes perfect, but perfect isn't genius. Which isn't to disparage anyone, but to see such pettiness automatically raise its head whenever someone brings up this 10000 hours crap as if it's something new - one guy goes boo-hoo people won't think I'm a genius anymore, the other guy goes, yeah I could be a genius too if only I practiced it - is just sad. No one cares about what you could be. I could be a freakin' Navy Seal if I just enlisted and worked hard and blah blah blah; I'm not a Navy Seal, so all that's irrelevant. All that matters is what you are, so if we're reveling in the fact that we could be better at something if we practiced, rather than actually practicing, well that says more about the human ego rather than human talent.


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