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how many people still use irc? sad, but i would have thought discord would have pretty much killed it off.


We are somewhere over 260,000 [1] and I am not going anywhere at least.

[1]: https://netsplit.de


Just in terms of IRC as a protocol there are actually millions of daily users, many live chat features on the Web (like on video streaming websites such as Twitch) use IRC as a basis: https://dev.twitch.tv/docs/chat/irc/

Now for that example it isn't a full IRC implementation, but you can use a common IRC client to connect and chat on such services.


How many of these are bots/bouncers, running on some forgotten vhost?


As many as one would like to substantiate a claim of IRC being "alive" or "dead"? I am fairly certain that the majority of the users I see are alive and real, but how am I even supposed to prove that?


Proving 'aliveness' would be indeed difficult, the more time passes, the harder.

It depends on the network, taking one of the oldest, still existing, EFNET for example, has many bots for technical reasons, so some channel can't be taken over in case of netsplits. The ratio seems like up to a handful of users vs. a dozen bots for the smaller channels. That alone should distort the numbers massively.

For other networks, let's say LiberaChat, it may look different from a technical point of view, but there arises the question of 'philosophical zombiness', as I've witnessed the same shitheadedness repeating the same nonsense over periods of years, when I made the mistake to go there again. That could be bots, now even more so, or just philosophical zombies. Or some so called neurodiversity in action, which I couldn't care less about.

Does it matter? Probably not. It could be seen as a failure of my Zen, messing up my own solipsistic creation ;)


i am annoyed whenever i learn that a popular open source project's (only) real time communication/support channel is on one of the closed platforms; i then chose to not use it.

i've not encountered projects (relevant to me at least) which moved from IRC to closed platforms, some moved to matrix though (which is only mildly annoying to me).

Also with the network adoption [0] of ircv3 features like history playback, the need for bouncers on always-on 24/7 machines should decrease

[0]: https://ircv3.net/support/networks


personally I think discord is shit - I wish it would go away. IRC is a lot more resilient towards takeovers and enshittification. look at what happened to slack.


What happened to Slack, if you don't mind me asking?


It started locking off basic features behind paywalls and is nagging you about it. Before the rise of discord and in the professional space teams it also started to close off external API gateways to for instance IRC.

Its the basic enshitification playbook really. They got steamrolled during COVID by zoom and later teams somewhat interrupting the process.


> “Tell me about you. If your life was a book, give me the chapter titles from your birth till now.”

Utterly ridiculous.


> Once you’ve gotten the overview, dive into each “chapter” and plumb the depths for their real stories. Go back to their childhood!

Oh God. A job interview isn't a therapy session. Why would people ever feel this type of questioning is appropriate for a job interview? How would someone who's dealt with intense trauma during some of those "chapters" respond? Especially given the power imbalance in a job interview, and the pressure you feel to give an answer.

I'd like to believe that I would be willing to politely decline to answer questions like this, thank the interviewer and tell them there just seems to be a mismatch, and walk out of the door. But I don't know if I'd be able to, due to the stress of a job interview.


This reminds me of an interview I have had in the past that made me very uncomfortable.

They asked me the same question and I paused for a moment and replied "excuse me, but this question makes me feel uncomfortable; I'm here for an interview not for a date!".

They realized they overdid it and asked me actual questions.

Eventually decided I was the right candidate for them, but until they decided to reply back, I already had found job elsewhere.

Why do they ask such type of questions anyway?!


> Why do they ask such type of questions anyway?!

They are incompetent at doing their jobs.


I'm getting red flags from this guide. "Tell me about your best X" is a very low effort question. Being excited about digging through person's life like it's an open book and even excited about them explaining how they cared of their dying parent is perverted at best.


"Well, I like to call chapter 7 'The Fuck Pig'. It'll make sense in a minute."


Dat you, David Cameron?


Really condescending way of talking to a person.


it's a horrible experience with terraform too.


every time I hear someone suggest such a thing, I remind them that now you have two systems who believe they own the state of the world: .tfstate and etcd and let me assure you that no matter how much our dumbass TF friend thinks it knows what's going on, etcd wins hands down every time

that's why I strongly suggest that if anyone is a "whole TF shop," they go the operator route, because trying any lower level management is the road to ruin


Do tell?


Terraform wants to be the only thing that owns a K8S object, but the way things work in reality is you have a dozen things that want to write back to this attribute, or that overwrite objects in other places, etc, and you're constantly fighting with TF about this or that triviality.


you still need a hub for zigbee connectivity right?


yes, I use home assistant cause I don't need any cloud based stuff for it to work, though I did have to buy a raspi and a zigbee stick to run it on (or if you have some extra hardware laying about, I just like having it separated from my other stuff). I have a few cloud based things attached to it, but I'm selective and don't buy things where essential functionality requires it, but it's a extra & optional feature on something I was going to buy anyways (and that I don't care if data is shared on, like my automatic litter box dump box being full).


You need a ZigBee hub, but it doesn't have to be a Hue one.


You need a coordinator talking to the zigbee bulbs, in most cases this is a usb-dongle for $20-50. Zigbee2mqtt has a great list of different dongles and their pros/cons. The other functionality of a propriatary hub will be fulfilled by home assistant or Zigbee2mqtt+nodered.


Yes but there are USB Zigbee dangles that will serve this need. You don't need another box and power supply, there are multiple brands to choose from, and no cloud account or goddamn SMS confirmation needed.


map not loading for me.

latest version of chrome. have tried incognito


Yes but it should be back now? My hosting provider (Cloudflare Pages) seem to have a limit on "functions" I cannot increase. I've worked around it for now but it might open at Cork for everyone. If so, you can zoom out and tap the map to select somewhere else.


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