i find it hard to believe that there is no equivalent anywhere else in the world. there is so much talent out there and the stakes are so high that it seems like an inevitability.
whatever many secrets are involved, information wants to be free and it's hard to believe that others won't figure it out.
by the time they do catch up we better be steps ahead. what's after EUV?
- ASML's High-NA EUV machines ready for high-volume production
- Machines have processed 500,000 wafers, showing technical readiness
- Full integration into manufacturing expected in 2-3 years, ASML's CTO says
After that, it may be X-rays.
A disruptive step would be to move to 3D printing, but that (among other issues) is too slow at the moment. Maybe, ideas from nano robotics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanorobotics) can help there.
> A disruptive step would be to move to 3D printing
The lithography equivalents of that are laser direct write lithography and e-beam lithography. They've been used for decades in research labs, but they're impossibly slow for any mass production.
Atomic Semi are trying to make some derivative of these processes happen at a commercial scale.
> i find it hard to believe that there is no equivalent anywhere else in the world. there is so much talent out there and the stakes are so high that it seems like an inevitability.
Well, even jet engine manufacturing is something that China is behind in (relatively speaking), and it (seems?) is simpler than some of the stuff in EUV machines.
Honestly I thought the same, but after watching a couple of videos on how EUV actually works, and what ASML (and the 1,200 other specialized companies that feed into its supply chain) built..
I can understand why you can't just take one apart and copy it.
There's (apparently) 4 decades of accumulated cutting edge scientific research that has gone into these machines.
I suspect the machinery, process and human expertise required to simply produce the parts required for these machines is the real moat (oh and I guess the US-led export controls too).
The build tolerances for components are incredible. There are 11 primary mirrors in an EUV machine, each one has something like 100 coats of ultra-pure materials that are precisely deposited in picometer-thick layers with tolerances in the nanometers, across a 1-meter wide curved surface.
Then you have to position the mirrors perfectly inside the machine, again with tolerances in the nanometers.
So even if you know what you need to do, having the equipment and expertise to do it is a different thing.
And that's just one part of the 100,000+ parts that make up an EUV machine.
I worked on part of it in 2006-8. I noticed that our office waste wasn't being shredded, and asked my boss why not...
"With all the problems we have getting this to work? We ought to ship our drawings to our competitors to slow them down!"
Very tongue-in-cheek, but... yeah. The entire machine underwent a massive overhaul when it was discovered that bare, unoxidized titanium in the presence of elemental hydrogen would absorb so much it became brittle. Who knew? Maybe some few chemists, but none worked in ASML design, as it happened.
Yeah… when I’m eating breakfast, a lecture is not what I’m after. I watched that Veritasium video a while back and was glued to it. Any other presentation style and I probably would have completely skipped it (thinking I’ll watch it another time knowing I would never go back to it).
I was having it audit my Firefox user.js profile and help me with a userChrome.css to style it my way, here's a snippet of it happening this morning:
Let me look at arkenfox's updater.sh real quick (to know how to deploy properly), then draft user-overrides.js, install everything into your profile, and run the updater.
Bash(/claude/debug/mozilla/arkenfox-userjs/updater.sh -h 2>&1 | head -40)
⎿ Usage: /claude/debug/mozilla/arkenfox-userjs/updater.sh [-bcdehlnrsuv] [-p PROFILE] [-o OVERRIDE]
Optional Arguments:
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⎿ API Error: Claude Code is unable to respond to this request, which appears to violate our Usage Policy (https://www.anthropic.com/legal/aup). Please double press esc to edit your last message or start a new session for Claude Code to assist with a different task. If you are seeing this refusal repeatedly, try running /model claude-sonnet-4-20250514 to switch models.
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Awesome, appreciate it, please do!
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Let me know if you'd like me to run it, there seems to be something about the script that is triggering you to stop
No, I just hit my response budget showing you the help — proceeding now.
> No one wanted to use those or make them for other people.
but why not?
personally i find it much easier to track my food, workouts, daily diaries etc. in ChatGPT/Claude as I already use them for everything else. no need for a standalone app when the app could simply plugin into ChatGPT.
wondering if it's a UX problem or a more fundamental one like platform risks
It not really even an app. It's just a thread. You'd be better off with something like Cursor where you are reading and writing files on your own drive.
independently of whether the app is completely LLM generated or not, my point was more regarding the incredible distribution that ChatGPT offers and why it is not being taken advantage of.
one of the biggest problems of many consumer apps is convincing people to download it and give it a try. For many consumer apps like journaling, fitness tracking, nutrition, ... it seems that letting people use them where they are already spending a lot of time (i.e. ChatGPT) could be a great distribution advantage. Yet I could barely find any purely consumer ChatGPT apps and so I'm wondering what's missing. Any ideas?
What I was looking for is something like a framework + service. Imagine the equivalent of netx.js + vercel but for CLIs instead of for full stack apps. oclif seems to be only a great framework afaik.
as usage of CLIs increases I wonder whether there will be a need for a service that provides everything that developers of CLIs need (auth, telemetry, releases, ...). Something like what Vercel is today for full stack apps. Are you aware of anything along those lines?
While playing around with OpenClaw I realized that after a few days of adding skills, plugins, crons, etc. things were all over the places. Memory files spread everywhere in the workspace, plugin configs stored here and there, skills not always visible to crons, ...
The analogy is that of a boutique. OpenClaw goes to the boutique and is "dressed up" properly so that all the various components are organized and easy to maintain. Clawtique is organized around the concept of a "dress", basically a bundle of everything OpenClaw needs to achieve a goal (skills, plugins, memory segments, crons, ...). The CLI enables users to easily dress and undress OpenClaw so that you can try out a dress and easily remove it without leaving any dangling dependencies.
Some dresses i created are the sleeping-coach (bundles the OuraClaw plugin https://github.com/rickybloomfield/OuraClaw with skills and crons that notify you on how you slept) and the fabric-sync (bundles the fabric plugin https://github.com/onfabric/openclaw-fabric with skills and crons to maintain an accurate USER.md of you based on your interactions on the various big tech platforms).
The follow up is to have OpenClaw use the Clawtique CLI itself so that it can easily dress and undress with whatever it needs to accomplish the goal without everything becoming an unmanageable mess.
whatever many secrets are involved, information wants to be free and it's hard to believe that others won't figure it out.
by the time they do catch up we better be steps ahead. what's after EUV?
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