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Part of the issue is that they don't actually advertise what the token limit is. Just some vague, "this is 5x more than free, and 5x more than pro". They seem to be free to change the basis however they please, because most of us are more than happy to use what they give us at the discounted subscription pricing.

How much do you want to bet me that the credential was stolen during the previous LiteLLM incident? At what point are we going to have to stop using these package managers because it's not secure? I've got to admit, it's got me nervous to use Python or Node.js these days, but it's really a universal problem.

> it’s got me nervous to use Python or Node.js these days

My feelings precisely. Min package age (supported in uv and all JS package managers) is nice but I still feel extremely hesitant to upgrade my deps or start a new project at the moment.

I don’t think this is going to stabilize any time soon, so figuring out how to handle potentially compromised deps is something we will all need to think about.


NPM only gained minimum package age in February of this year, and still doesn't support package exclusions for internal packages.

https://github.com/npm/cli/pull/8965

https://github.com/npm/cli/issues/8994

Its good that that they finally got there but....

I would be avoiding npm itself on principle in the JS ecosystem. Use a package manager that has a history of actually caring about these issues in a timely manner.


It almost doesn't matter, because you can get pwned by a transitive dependency. If someone doesn't have the same scruples as you have, you're still at risk.

minimumReleaseAge and lockfiles also pin down transitive dependencies.

PNPM makes you approve postinstall scripts instead of running them by default, which helps a lot. Whenever I see a prompt to run a postinstall script, unless I know the package normally has one & what it does, I go look it up before approving it.

(Of course I could still get bitten if one of the packages I trust has its postinstall script replaced.)


How does this stance work with your CICD?

I suppose you would have to commit your node_modules, or otherwise cache your setup so that all prerequesite modules are built and ready to install without running post-install scripts?

More like the Trivy incident (which led to the compromise of LiteLLM).

There are ways to limit the blast radius, like running them in ephemeral rootless containers with only the project files mounted.

They are. They just are killed in utero instead of on the front lines.


This is kind of a misleading title. While they "ended" the 30-percent cut, they are keeping a 20-percent cut.


> This is kind of a misleading title

Kind of is doing a lot of work there. This might be THE most misleading title I heard. Jumping into this thread I expected they went from 30% to 0% not 20% so I appreciate your comment for giving me more context.

Can Dang or HN moderation team fix the title to better reflect the true state and not be misleading as it currently is?

thanks in advance!


Or better yet, remove it all together. Why promote this type of deceivement?

It looks to be a pretty massive messaging compaign promoting this deceptive wording.


worse title I've seen in a while


Soviet level of journalism...

“Did you hear? On Red Square they’re giving away cars.”

“Not quite. First, it’s not on Red Square but on Dzerzhinsky Square. Second, they’re not cars but bicycles. And third, they’re not giving them away, they’re stealing them.”


"Did you hear, Russians went to space", "All of them?", "No, just one", "Then why do you bother me."


It would have been about Apple it probably would have said "Apple starts charging 20% fees on the AppStore"


> This is kind of a misleading title

That kind of is an understatement


Note that the title is the same as the actual article's heading. :(


The majority of which is going directly to Visa, Amex, Mastercard.


Nah, credit card fees are like 1.5 to 3.5%.


Country dependent, in the EU there is a legal cap of 0.2% for debit and 0.3% for credit card transactions.


Interchange is $0.35. On small transactions, that eats up a lot.


i dont believe any of those companies take anywhere near a 20% cut per transaction


Also, iOS App Store and Google Play Store aren't just straight payment processing, they are Merchant of Record.


That's incredible, so Stripe at 3% plus $0.30 per transactions must be losing money hand over fist!


i see the author has a small vocabulary.


I feel like this is a bit of a sinking ship. I suppose if you want to avoid known sources of slop then this works … but beyond that it’s a bit of a lost cause. It’s like sports betting — once it’s there then there’s no saying who is (ab)using it.


It's not perfect, but in time my search results have gone from the first several pages being mostly garbage to mostly all good. Sure, new spam sites crop up every few days, but it's a quick block.


I was struck that it was full of assertions and backed up by nothing. I suppose his clawdbot could have written it.


Were we the crows?


I have been using omz for YEARS. I have practically grown up with it. I resent that I would have never noticed that it took several hundred milliseconds to load, if it were not for this discussion. I never felt the delay particularly unless I was in a very large Git repository — which is rare. On the bright side, now I know about `fish` and am learning there are some nice features I never had in ZSH (i.e. much more advanced autosuggest.) What I basically use omz for is 1) autocomplete, 2) git aliases, and 3) my beloved prompt. In about 30 minutes, Claude helped me port my prompt from ZSH, autocomplete comes OOB, and a cursory Google search shows someone has made a Fish plugin to satiate my Git alias muscle memory. I could leave Zsh/omz in the rear view mirror tomorrow — but for why? I never would have noticed before this discussion...


I thought Canadians were supposed to be nice…


This tells me nothing except the author’s politics.


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