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Since teslas have drivers.... no?

Heisenberg's Tesla - if it is doing something good, it has a driver. If it is doing something bad, it's autonomous.

Depends who's observing

Austin has Tesla robotaxis with no driver.

They do. No one actually cares is the current value. Insurance companies are barely starting to care.

Many voted for this

Very few people voted for tariffs, specifically. They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.

> They voted for a promise of a return to a world where they were on top.

Very few were on top during The Gilded Age and it has been EXTREMELY clear for quite a long time now that the "Great" in M.A.G.A. is a reference to the 1880s, not the 1950s.


Where THEY were on top. Trump voting men wanted the world where they can rule over women. Trump voting whites voted to be over minorities. Trump voting christians want their religious state.

And so on and so forth. In each case, vote for Trump was to harm someone you look down at and to dominate over another group.


Begging for a 12h day of work every morning on the docks as a stevedore in crowds among hundreds of other men begging for the same job does not give one power to "rule over women".

They'd be too underpaid and exhausted to rule over their own dinner before falling asleep for the night.


No they absolutely did. Trump promised tariffs on multiple occasions: https://www.export.org.uk/insights/trade-news/us-presidentia...

When you vote, you vote for an entire platform and you especially vote for central campaign promises. You don’t get to say “I voted for a world where I’m on top” and then say “but not for the primary method the candidate promised to use!”


tariff were promised and implemented by Trump in his first mandate too, if you voted for him, you mostly voted for America Great Again Through Tariffs.

After the liberation day tariffs were announced, 34% of the people thought they were good.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/nation-world/national/articl...


Project 2025 was publicly available prior to the election. Tariffs were one of the many policies within the larger plan. If you voted for Trump you are responsible for the Tariffs, this is not a hoodwink where Trump rug pulled everyone after getting elected — it was literally there in the open.

Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024; it was even included and discussed at the Presidential Debate. The Harris platform even called it a tax at that time, to attempt to make it quite clear to the voter who, in the end, would bear the cost, and the Trump platform equivocated on who would pay the tax to distract from that Harris was right.

Even if you knew nothing of Project 2025 (somehow), you were warned.


On top you have news outlets and educated people not being clear what they are. See from the article:

He has long argued tariffs boost American manufacturing - but many in the business community, as well as Trump's political adversaries, say the costs are passed on to consumers

It’s reported as if someone still needs to figure out who pays the tariffs in the end. I’m aware that tariffs are a lever to potential move buying behavior and give incentives to move production locally. But in this instance and how it’s/ was implemented it’s clear who is the paying for it.


“ Even beyond/disregarding Project 2025, tariffs were a well-known part of the GOP platform in 2024;”

The tariff stuff is just a variation of the republican dream to replace income tax with a sales tax. Big tax cut for higher incomes while raising taxes for lower incomes.


Trump believed that Obama was a secret Muslim infiltrate sent to destroy America because he's black, that's what they voted for. Racism.

The rest of it was just gravy.


The problem is USA doesn't get good choices. Given the choice between a walking corpse and trump, they choose the corpse. Given the choice between a woman and trump, they choose trump.

Care to elaborate why a person is a bad choice because she is a women? Especially compared to someone who shits his own pants in the public?

I think there is a language barrier issue here.

I assume they were suggesting that to those that voted for Trump they saw a woman as the worse choice. Perhaps as well when Hillary Clinton ran against him.

This is loony, all these guys knew eachother for years before and have cordial if nor friendly relationships. The Clintons, Trump, Bushes, Obamas, etc.

In 2016 65% of Trump supporters believed Obama was secretly Muslim. [0]

Trump claimed that Obama was "the founder of Isis" and claimed MANY times that he was not born in the United States. [1]

So yes, he is completely loony... and very blatantly a racist who sends dogwhistles to other racists regularly.

No, he is not friends with Obama or Biden. In fact, Trump is the first president in 150 years to refuse to attend the inauguration of his competitor after losing. [2]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_religion_conspira...

[1] https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/508194635270062080

[2] https://www.whitehousehistory.org/photos/notably-absent-pres...


These people are not necessary against tariff, they are against paying more for their stuff and having it benefit some middleman because the current government messed up badly.

I can otherwise understand how people would agree on paying more for their stuff if it allows their fellow citizens to have a job.


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There are many reasonable ideas for import taxation. But what you describe was not what happened. China fought back with their own tariffs, and you may well have paid less import tax on your Temu knock-offs than you did for some widget made with both higher environmental and labor standards in some western European country.

You are pro thoughtless tariffs against every random country, because of temu ads?

Don’t panic too much yet, there are other legal bases for the tariffs.

We’ll see…


Because they're the ones asking for the administrative burden of refiling a basic RFC violation bug?


It’s not working so hard people pay millions just to live there.


People do because of the economic activity, not the pristine management of the city.


You do realize this is wire fraud right?


Wire fraud is more than just lying to someone over the Internet. It requires a financial gain.


And I wish them luck, because the thought of current ai bots doing SRE work effectively is laughable.


Doubtful. The issue is probably the service needs to be moved to some framework that isn't deprecated and being turned off, and no one can justify side projects these days that don't sell an AI product.


Demand for what? A sealab like head in the sand view of lack of data regulation requirements?


specific software applications you can run in space that you can't run on Earth or can't run cheaper on Earth.


What’s software that would benefit from running in space? The only thing I can imagine is processing of data generated in space so you need less downlink or can reduce latency, everything else can be calculated wherever you want, no?


I think the point the original guy is hand wavingly getting at is the point of something like this is to avoid the possibility of say a FBI raid or Nuremburgish trials for a vast AI surveillance processing facility hub for other down looking satellites if they were to lose their newly acquired power, or similar technocratic ramblings / ideas like it would survive the end of society.

Its like that scene at the end of Real Genius, "Maybe somebody already has a use for it, one for which it's perfectly designed." Lets look at the facts: Impossible to raid, not under any direct legal jurisdiction, high bandwidth line of sight communications options to satellite feed points that would be difficult to tap outside of other orbital actors, Power feed that is untethered to any planetary grid or at risk of terrestrial actors, etc.


That’s not how it works. Your state is responsible for your activities in space, so if you annoy other countries enough, your own country will regulate you. If they don’t, you could have just built the same thing on the ground in this country.


Impossible to raid ?

It's definitely much easier and much much cheaper to send a single rocket there blowing the assembled rather large target into still sizeable chucks of orbital debris than it is to deploy and assemble the thing there in the first place. And there are a few terrestrial actors rather capable of this. More than there are who could make it happen under whatever optimistic assumptions anyway.

In itself, a structure of this size in orbit is an efficient catcher of micrometeorites and orbital debris. Over "non-eternal" timeframes you don't even need a bad actor with good rockets.

Nevermind that in such a case, the eventual fate of these sizeable chunks of orbital debris is to become rods of god ... just without particular steerability.

It'd be a sight.


...you have to pay me a lot for the answer to this question.


Don't be coy, please indicate the math that works differently in silicon in a zero g environment if its not some regulation dodge.


People in comments figured out half the answer already, the remaining half is left as an exercise for audience.


At this point I'm going to assume that anyone pushing datacenters in space wants to host child pornography. That's the only realistic workload that ticks all the boxes for orbital datacenters.


I don't think it would "solve" little any of the legal issues with Child Pornography (not if the owner lived on earth, at least), but it would make a great and politically convenient target for space to earth weaponry.


Oh, fully agreed. Orbital datacenters don't solve many to any engineering problems either, so I figure its adherents are as much into legal problem solving as they are engineering problem solving.


such as?


Unregulated casinos?


Unregulated casinos don't need this kind of compute. Most could be run on a decent raspberry pi or two.

At any rate, one basic communication's satellite worth of compute would be more than enough. No need for TPUs.


A cube-sat casino is an interesting concept for sure.


Hmm. Has anyone ever flown a pirate radio blimp?


Human trafficking ring?


Not everything you think you know is right.

https://github.com/sirupsen/napkin-math


Well implemented network hardware can have high bandwidth and low latency. But that doesn't get around the complexity and headaches it brings. Even with the best fiber optics, wires can be cut or tripped over. Controllers can fail. Drivers can be buggy. Networks can be misconfigured. And so on. Any request - even sent over a local network - can and will fail on you eventually. And you can't really make a microservice system keep working properly when links start failing.

Local function calls are infinitely more reliable. The main operational downside with a binary monolith is that a bug in one part of the program will crash the whole thing. Honestly, I still think Erlang got it right here with supervisor trees. Use "microservices". But let them all live on the same computer, in the same process. And add tooling to the runtime environment to allow individual "services" to fail or get replaced without taking down the rest of the system.


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