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you are correct, most junk food does contian some type of animal part be it eggs, dairy or fom animal-derived protein (i.e. l-cycten or gelatin)


Not all excessive calories are converted into fat. It all depends on blood glucose level, and liver/muscle glycogen storage levels and the level of activity after the meals.


Glycogen isn't excess. There's a fairly fixed upper bound to your glycogen stores. In fact there's a whole class of glycogen storage diseases which are very life-limiting, all due to excess storage (inadequate storage would be lethal in utero). Calories burned through activity are by definition not excess. I suppose you could argue that in diabetics with blood sugar above 200, then yes, the sugars become an osmotic diuretic and they literally pee out the calories, but otherwise, excess calories go to fat. Fat is the ultimate, infinite sink in this equilibrium equation.


As a vegetarian, I can attest to the health aspect of it. I am more healthy than anyone I know (all meat/dairy/egg eaters). Whenever I get a checkup they always ask if i am an athlete or some weird health nut, I just say , "no I just don't eat animals."

My last cholesterol test was 113 total.


You can be unhealthy and be a vegetarian as well. I know plenty of overweight vegetarians. I also know a tonne of VERY healthy vegetarians. Mostly, vegetarians are just more interested in healthy eating than the average person.

There is nothing inherently more healthy about a vegetarian diet than a non-vegetarian diet.

How do you think they fatten up animals before slaughter? By feeding them meat? No, by feeding them grain.


> There is nothing inherently more healthy about a vegetarian diet than a non-vegetarian diet.

Can you provide a reference for this totally unsupported assertion? There is a wealth of evidence that contradicts this statement. Here is a link to one highly respected and large study - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study

> How do you think they fatten up animals before slaughter? By feeding them meat? No, by feeding them grain.

What? This comment is stupid on so many levels I don't know where to start. Here's a short list

- These animals are 'by definition' different to humans. You can't extend results beyond species.

- The animals are mostly dedicated herbivores. Feeding them meat would make them sick and very unhealthy to consume.

- Meat is a lot more expensive to produce than grain. It takes about 10 calories of plant material to produce 1 calorie of meat. Using meat to produce meat would be uneconomical and ultimately unsustainable.

- I'm not sure about the 'species BMI' they aim for but I would have thought that meat from 'obese' cows wouldn't be all the popular. I thought consumers generally tried to avoid the obvious fat.


Do you sport or have physical activity in another way? I've found that there is a huge difference between sporting 30 minutes a week and no high intensity physical activity at all.


why does this get to stay but this gets killed?

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1860118


This is the best thing that could happen for the software, it will continue, as FOSS and innovate. This is a good thing.


True, but it will take some time.

I hope that Oracle donates the name, as it will cut the time it takes down.


the deal is the steering committee is now made up of all Oracle employees, no one from the community, a BIG deal for FOSS


Probably also a big deal for all the Oracle (Sun) employees who used to be working on a vital community project. Morale matters.


OO will serve as a test bed for Oracle Office but it will not be innovative and free, OO will just be free.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Office


This is the plan, yes. But it depends on how many devs quit. It enough people shift to LibreOffice, that plan might fail and OO will be either scrapped, or only available to paying customers.


in theory yes, but in practice no. developing such a complex piece of software is very hard to do. the pieces are there, they just need refine it.


Indeed. Which is why the lion's share was done by corporations Star Division and then Sun, not by "the community".


OpenOffice was acquired by Oracle recently when they bought Sun Microsystesm and have not embraced the open source philosophy in the opinion of the greater open office community. So, since the code is open source, several in the non-Oracle community decided to "rescue" the project from the same fate as Opensolaris. Libre Office is based on OO code 3.3 and GO-OO.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20014478-264.html


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