> fully secured against attackers, of which the mere existence of a hypervisor layer is proof of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine_escape

Do you really think companies have started spending millions on tokens and no one from finance has been involved?

You could argue that all the spending is wasted (doubtless some is), but insisting that the decision is being made in complete ignorance of financial concerns reeks of that “everyone’s dumb but me” energy.

> Do you really think companies have started spending millions on tokens and no one from finance has been involved?

Oh, they were involved all right. They ran their analyses and realized that the increase in Acme Corp's share price from becoming "AI-enabled" will pay for the tokens several times over. For today. They plan to be retired before tomorrow.

Sounds like they did train in corporate finance.

More that there is a poor incentive structure. Just like how PE can make money by leveraged buyouts and running businesses into the ground. Many of the financial instruments that make both that and the current AI bubble possible were legal then made illegal within the lifetimes of the last 16 presidents.

Round-tripping used to be regulated. SPVs used to be regulated. If you need a loan you used to have to go to something called a bank, now it comes from ???? who knows drug cartels, child traffickers, blackstone, russians & chinese oligarchs. Even assuming it doesn't collapse tommorow why should they make double digit returns on AI datacenters built on the backs of Americans?

My issue was not with criticism of the money being spent or how it’s being obtained. I was specifically commenting on this statement:

> “Im convinced none of these people have any training in corporate finance. For if they did they'd realise they were wasting money.”

This isn’t meaningful criticism. This is a vacuous “those guys are so dumb”.

That’s probably not an intern. Doctors with enough pull can get dedicated scribes like this, but they aren’t cheap, which is why most doctors don’t get them.

What the hell. Kernel.org is mining in my browser to “make sure I’m not a bot”?

> things built in the 80s tended to be pretty solid

Survivorship bias. We built a lot of crap stuff in the 80s, too. Most stuff built in the 80s is probably in landfills now.

You don’t actually have to use the app to backflush. You can just do it manually. The app is more convenient than flipping the lever a dozen times though.

If it's between harvesting my data and flipping a lever a dozen times, I'll flip the lever.

Why do we collectively continue to give up privacy to spare us the most innocuous of "inconveniences"?

What data do you think they're "harvesting"? If they're counting how many shots I pull and judging me by my choice of brew temp, I can live with that. The app adds a lot of convenience and saves having to have some sort of UI or manual control on the machine itself.

I understand the concerns with telemetry, but I can’t bring myself to care if La Marzocco can track how often I backflush my espresso machine.

But if it’s a principled thing for you, I get it.

> when I went to school you could return that $300 book for $200 to the bookstore once the semester was done.

This is not my recollection at all. My recollection was that I could buy a book for $300 and sell it back for $75 if it was in great condition. And I could only do that about half the time because version N+1 would make my copy obsolete.

I cringe watching my daughter dogear her books. It hurts me deep in my soul to see her nice books damaged that way.

But objectively my reaction is wrong. Books are not mystical objects to be revered. They are objects to be used. Nearly all books end up in a landfill or recycled eventually. What does it actually matter if they end up there covered in annotations and filled with dog eared pages?

Books you have borrowed? Absolutely do not write in them or dogear pages. Books you intend to share with others? Generally the same. Rare books or valuable books? Of course. Normal books you got on Amazon or from your local bookstore that you use only for your personal enjoyment? Use them how you want.

It is ironic how AI is rapidly swinging the pendulum from “corp speak” to “typo filled drafts” in an attempt to look human.

But AI to make your hand written messages “look human” is just a cash grab. This has to be like 8 hours worth of vibe coding or less.

If I didn’t specifically opt in to receiving marketing emails (and no, failing to opt out is not the same), they are spam. I’ve never heard anyone say “I’m sure glad this company added me to their email list without my request.”

The fact that you happen to work on a mailing list product does not change that reality.

I hear what you're saying, but irrespective of how one landed on such a list, the unsubscribe mechanism is broken. e.g. It's entirely possible and likely you've subscribed to one or more marketing lists, newsletters, transaction emails, etc that you want to be on, but your security software inadvertently unsubscribed you (without your permission).

No, it's not, because I don't use shitty security solutions.

If other people do and you are making me jump through hoops as a result to preserve your conversion rate, I'm reporting you to the relevant regulator.

> the unsubscribe mechanism is broken

Which one?

Are you saying some security solutions actually send a `List-Unsubscribe`/`List-Unsubscribe-Post` compliant HTTP POST with the correct payload, or do you think a URL in the email body is the gold standard of allowing people to unsubscribe?

Or are you just telling yourself that rationalization to avoid acknowledging that you're probably causing massive annoyance to many recipients?

I think this is extremely unlikely. Firstly because I almost never subscribe to newsletters or marketing lists. But also because I don’t believe my security software is submitting POSTs on random forms it finds links to. That would be insane behavior.

I can believe someone, somewhere has insane security software that does stuff like that. But I don’t believe it’s common.

That I want to be on? No. What usually happens is that I give my email to somebody (an auto repair place, say), for one-time use, and they add me to their marketing mailing list, even though that is not what I gave them my email for. That is not a list that I want to be on and willingly subscribed to.