Linking a podcast isn't very good sourcing. I'm very intrigued to hear how the cuddling that's happening college campuses isn't happening, since anyone can see it in real time.

Cuddling on campus sounds like a good idea and has been par for the course for generations. But coddling is a problem

I know you're jokingly responding to GP, but I seriously wonder if there's a deeper point here.

I feel like casual hookups are replacing cuddling and could be part of the issue but who knows.

Interesting reading this sentiment, after first reading the recent thread about Stanford's "war" on students. The prevailing attitude there seemed to be that Stanford was in fact antagonizing their students by banning drinking, when in fact they should be providing an environment that is insulates students from real-world consequences to allow for experimentation. Now I guess this opinion is that doing so would be coddling, and that is a problem in itself. Seems like a complex issue where people can have a reasonable difference of opinion. So maybe it's not that people are denying the coddling, but they just think it's not a problem.

> I'm very intrigued to hear how the cuddling that's happening college campuses isn't happening, since anyone can see it in real time

They were saying the same things when I was in college 30 years ago.

It can be argued that it's been getting steadily worse over that entire period of time.

I agree. It's a natural condition of the human world and not directly attributable to any one specific cause. Life goes on.

Here is a list of the referred critiques in the show notes:

The Miseducation of Free Speech (https://www.virginialawreview.org/articles/miseducation-free...)

College and the “Culture War”: Assessing Higher Education’s Influence on Moral Attitudes (https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/00031224211041...)

The Myth of the Campus Coddle Crisis (https://academeblog.org/2018/12/28/the-myth-of-the-campus-co...)

What ‘Safe Spaces’ Really Look Like on College Campuses (https://www.chronicle.com/article/what-safe-spaces-really-lo...)

Are College Campuses Really in the Thrall of Leftist Censors? (https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/03/hypersensitive-camp...)

Speaking Freely: What Students Think about Expression at American Colleges (https://www.thefire.org/research-learn/student-attitudes-fre...)

‘Not all cultures are created equal’ says Penn Law professor in op-ed (https://www.thedp.com/article/2017/08/amy-wax-penn-law-cultu...) How

Right Wing Media Has Tried to Stifle Student Speech at Evergreen State College (https://psmag.com/education/the-real-free-speech-story-at-ev...)

I'm a liberal professor, and my liberal students terrify me (https://www.vox.com/2015/6/3/8706323/college-professor-afrai...)

In College and Hiding From Scary Ideas (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/22/opinion/sunday/judith-shu...)

It's not much easier to engage with ten articles of varying quality and varying levels of disagreement than with a podcast.

>The Miseducation of Free Speech

Does not focus on Haidt.

>College and the “Culture War”: Assessing Higher Education’s Influence on Moral Attitudes

Does not focus on Haidt.

>The Myth of the Campus Coddle Crisis

"This is not one of those laudatory reviews. Although I agree with many things they write, and share their general outlook in opposition to safetyism (protecting people from any possible harms, including offensive ideas) and in favor of free speech, I want to focus on my disagreements because dissent is more interesting and more important."

Dissents on specific political implications while agreeing with the wider point.

>What 'Safe Spaces' really look like on college campuses

Does not mention Haidt at all; focuses mostly on "safe spaces" in the narrow sense of support groups.

>Are College Campuses Really in the Thrall of Leftist Censors?

Tabloid piece; focuses primarily on political bias and not overall censorship; does not mention Haidt.

>Speaking Freely: What Students Think about Expression at American Colleges

From FIRE, whose leadership worked with Haidt on the book; presumably not that critical of Haidt. Skipped.

>Not all cultures are created equal’ says Penn Law professor in op-ed

Focuses on Amy Waxman, an infamously racist professor whom even "anti-woke" firebrand Norman Finkelstein has denounced. A bit of a strawman.

>Right Wing Media Has Tried to Stifle Student Speech at Evergreen State College

Does not focus on Haidt; essentially agrees by highlighting censorship on college campuses, but disputes whether it is primarily leftist.

>I'm a liberal professor, and my liberal students terrify me

Skipped. You know why.

>In College and Hiding from Scary Ideas

Paywall; title indicates that it agrees with Haidt.

Nowhere in this Gish gallop of links is there a serious critique of the analysis in The Coddling of the American Mind, except in the third link, where the author is explicitly saying he agrees with Haidt on most points. Using this to discredit Haidt as he discusses a completely different subject is not a very helpful contribution to the overall discussion.

The Amy Waxman point was explicitly used by The Coddling Of The American Mind to prove its point, while the book completely ignored the context that Amy Waxman was racist, which is why it's referenced here. It's clear you haven't even read the book you're trying to defend here, so why are you doing this?

Edited to add: A gish-gallop? I'm just linking a set of references that the podcast uses because of the critique that podcasts are apparently bad to listen to? Do you want a transcript or something? I'm just wanting to let folks have some context to this article dude, that isn't coming from a source without its own biases and to keep that in mind when reading. Why are you being weird about this, man?

Excited to go through the links to see Haidt deflated only to walk away thoroughly disappointed...

Haidt's book argues that students and faculty denouncing Amy Wax is stifling a culture of freedom of speech, while purposefully not addressing what the students and faculty were denouncing. This is one of the few examples he provides.

Tarantino is about to stop making movies by his own account - "a director should never make more than 10 movies".

I'm slightly vexed that you did not mention Villeneuve, who made Blade Runner 2049 and recently Dune. Blade Runner 2049 is already a cult classic and Dune felt like a fresh air of mature sci-fi in the age of Marvel. He is about the only one I truly look forward to see his next movie, right now being Dune 2.