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But the problem is that if there’s an oil spill off the coast of Mexico or the U.S., this also contributes to GDP. If we have more crime in society and pay to deal with it, this contributes to GDP. If we have more war, it contributes to GDP. Our main indicator of economic progress doesn’t distinguish between beneficial economic activity and dysfunctional economic activity.

This is my favorite paragraph, because it is key to make people realize why GDP growth does not necessarily improve people's lives.


And that time period might be at most a month, considering the last post with the exact same link (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5186774 ) predates the current post by 31 days.


So far, I have been taking 2 history courses [1][2] on coursera.org (which offers over 300 free online courses) and I can certainly recommend both of them. Each course looks like this: about 2 hours of video lectures per week (which you can watch whenever you want), over a period of ~15 weeks. Clearly, following those history courses meant that I do not see the world with the same eyes now. For one, I feel that I am developing a (healthy) reflex to view news events in perspective within a longer period of time, instead of just considering the events in themselves (thus lacking context). Also, drawing parallels with similar events in the past provides insight and offers a wider and more informed framework for devising an appropriate action.

[1] "The Modern World: Global History since 1760" https://www.coursera.org/course/modernworld

[2] "A History of the World since 1300" https://www.coursera.org/course/wh1300


Here is a detail when using '!!:n' with ':p' when trying to iteratively construct a complex command. I want to emphasize the use of the up-arrow (which will show the interpolated arguments), as opposed to rewriting exactly what you wrote in the previous command, since the usage of ':p' will be interpreted by the shell as a command in itself:

    $ echo a b c d
    a b c d
    $ echo !!:2:p
    echo b
    $ echo !!:2
    -bash: :2: bad word specifier # there was only 1 argument in last command
However:

    $ echo a b c d
    a b c d
    $ echo !!:2:p
    echo b
    $
    <up-arrow pressed once will give the following prompt> 
    $ echo b


While this is mathematically true, I don't think it is necessary to acknowledge it in order to suggest/discuss a reasonable model for wealth distribution. I would even say that it is beside the point. The OP is trying to show that the order of magnitude of US wealth (or income) inequality is shocking. Moreover, most of us vastly underestimate the magnitude of US wealth inequality. And I would add as an example that many still believe in the American Dream, even if the US is one of the worst OECD countries when it comes to social mobility [1]. As George Carlin was saying, "You have to be asleep to believe it."

Back to the OP, when the top 1% has 24% of income (and 40% of wealth), that means there's a lot of luxury in the US which could instead be used to improve the life of some other less fortunate citizens. The economics rhetoric is clearly failing: the current wealth distribution is certainly not the most efficient distribution of resources if one is to include "quality of life" in the equation.

[1] http://www.oecd.org/eco/growth/economicpolicyreformsgoingfor...


Episciences would piggyback on ArXiv, a free online repository beloved of physicists and mathematicians who post most of their work there, whether or not they submit it to peer-reviewed journals. ArXiv is already hosted by Cornell University at a cost of around $830,000 a year.

That sounds like a lot of money, even considering the amount of publications. What would be the lion's share of the cost?


Princeton professor Anthony Grafton has an actual book wheel in his office. One can see it behind him on the first picture on the right: http://www.princeton.edu/~paw/archive_new/PAW06-07/11-0404/f...


As usual, the capitalist view has it in terms of the individual (as opposed to the collectivity or even the whole planet). One can think about the (perceived) benefits of buying (allegedly) cheap products. But like many things, the figure on that price tag is not the real price. It leaves out externalities.

Indeed, there was both a human (e.g. low salary for those workers, incredibly long working days for those Asians manufacturing the cheap product) and an environmental cost (e.g. pollution in countries where the anti-pollution laws are non existent, carbon emitted during transport). Those costs are not factored into the figure one can see on that price tag.


"Indeed, there was both a human (e.g. low salary for those workers, incredibly long working days for those Asians manufacturing the cheap product)"

They may work for a low salary, but in those countries, it's low salary or their family starves.

"(e.g. pollution in countries where the anti-pollution laws are non existent, carbon emitted during transport)."

Blame the government. They are the gatekeepers that choose to allow this type of pollution.


Blame the government. They are the gatekeepers that choose to allow this type of pollution.

It is Walmart – not the government – which pollutes in somebody else's garden. And North American consumers are certainly to blame as well for shopping at Walmart and thus contributing to increase its clout.

If consumers could see the details of the whole supply chain (from collecting the raw materials all the way to putting the product on the shelf), companies with no concerns other than maximizing profits – like Walmart – would lose their customers in no time.


If only the illegal drug users in the US saw it the same way, the cartels would be out of business. Maybe a solution to stop the violence?


My favorite paragraph is this:

It’s true that we do spend a lot more than the average family. Yet the one truly expensive line item in our budget is our airplane (which, by the way, was manufactured in France by Dassault Aviation SA), and those annual costs are mostly for fuel (from the Middle East). It’s just crazy to believe that any of this is more beneficial to our economy than hiring more teachers or police officers or investing in our infrastructure.

That's an excellent counter-example of trickle-down economics.


Actually, that it is more an example of tribalism and xenophobia. Why is a manufacturer inherently evil for a crime no greater than not being American?


He was not indicating evilness. He was pointing out that the money flows out of the United States. The article is directed at people who are trying to create more US jobs and increase US GDP.


"Zilch Capital LLC": how appropriately named! And how ironic that the cover title of this week's edition reads "Over-regulated America".


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