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All custom built. The hook capability comes from Claude code of course, but the specifics of what they do is all built for Prawduct.

The link is pretty clear that it is only about copilot.com, not every product that has copilot in the name:

> These Terms apply to your use of “Copilot,” which includes:

> The standalone Copilot apps on your computer or mobile device

> The Copilot service we offer at copilot.microsoft.com, copilot.com, and copilot.ai

> Conversations you have with Copilot through other Microsoft apps and websites

> Conversations you have with Copilot through third-party apps and platforms

> Other Copilot-branded apps and services that link to these Terms

> These Terms don’t apply to Microsoft 365 Copilot apps or services unless that specific app or service says that these Terms apply.


I'm old enough to remember when everything was "Active". Active Directory, ActiveX, etc.

And Active Directory is probably the only still relevant one. Is it going to become Copilot Directory soon?

Now that you mention it: in addition to your mentioned Active Directory and ActiveX:

- (Microsoft) Active Accessibility (MSAA): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Active_Accessibility

- Active Channel: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Channel

- ActiveX Data Objects (ADO): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveX_Data_Objects

- Active Desktop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Desktop

- ActiveMovie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveMovie

- Active Server Pages (ASP): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Server_Pages

- Active Setup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Setup

- ActiveSync: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActiveSync

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In particular at the time around Windows Vista, Microsoft named a lot of technologies "Windows ... Foundation", for example:

- Windows Communication Foundation (WCF)

- Windows Driver Foundation (today: Windows Driver Frameworks): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Windows_Driver_Fr...

- Windows Identity Foundation

- Windows Presentation Foundation (WPF)

- Windows Workflow Foundation (WF)

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Also the "Windows Media ..." branding was big for media technologies at the respective time:

- Windows Media Audio (WMA)

- Windows Media Center, Windows Media Connect (both abbreviated to WMC): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Connect

- (Windows) Media Center Extender (MCX): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Center_Extender

- Windows Media Device Manager: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/wmdm/windows...

- Windows Media DRM

- Windows Media Encoder (WME)

- Windows Media Player (WMP)

- Windows Media Services (WMS): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Services

- Windows Media Video (WMV)


Where can I see an example of any other kind of capitalism?

Capitalism is always underpinned by a strong legal system which is why most criticism is about constraining growth in legislation, not killing off interference outright. Copyright law is a good example of a law that made sense in it's original form but turned into a monster with scope-creep.

Although, if we're being realpolitik, every time government interference grows in scope and corrupts markets, capitalism still gets blamed and people call for more government to fix it (see: housing). So the capitalism vs state capitalism distinction isn't very meaningful in practice.


Wait, are you saying that it's not hypocritical for my chess opponent to try to protect their king while trying to kill mine? :mind-blown:

Tech people are funny, with these takes that businesses do/should adhere to absolute platonic ideals and follow them blindly regardless of context.


No, it's ethical people pointing out that if you toss aside ethics for success at all costs, you aren't going to find any sympathy when people start doing the same thing back to you. Live by the sword, die by the sword, as they say.

There is a reason we don't do things. That reason is it makes the world a worse place for everyone. If you are so incredibly out of touch with any semblance of ethics at all; mayhaps you are just a little bit part of the problem.


The funny thing about ethics is there is no absolute, which makes some people uncomfortable. Is it ethical to slice someone with a knife? Does it depend if you're a surgeon or not?

Absolutism + reductionism leads to this kind of nonsense. It is possible that people can disagree about (re)use of culture, including music and print. Therefore it is possible for nuance and context to matter.

Life is a lot easier if you subscribe to a "anyone who disagrees with me on any topic must have no ethics whatsoever and is a BAD person." But it's really not an especially mature worldview.


Categorical imperative and Golden Rule, or as you may know it from game theory "tit-for-tat" says "hi". The beautiful thing about ethics is that we philosophers intentionally teach it descriptively, but encourage one to choose their own based on context invariance. What this does is create an effective litmus test for detecting shitty people/behavior. You grasping on for dear life to "there's no absolutes" is an act of self-soothing on your own part as you're trying to rationalize your own behavior to provide an ego crumple zone. I, on the other hand, don't intend to leave you that option. That you're having to do it is a Neon sign of your own unethicality in this matter. We get to have nice things when people moderate themselves (we tolerate eventual free access to everything as long as the people who don't want to pay for it don't go and try to replace us economically at scale). When people abuse that, (scrape the Internet, try to sell work product in a way that jeopardizes the environment we create in) the nice thing starts going away, and you've made the world worse.

Welcome to life bucko. Stop being a shitty person and get with the program so we have something to leave behind that has a chance of not making us villains in the eyes of those we eventually leave behind. The trick is doing things the harder way because it's the right way to do it. Not doing it the wrong way because you're pretty sure you can get away with it.

But you're already ethically compromised, so I don't really expect this to do any good except to maybe make the part of you you pointedly ignore start to stir assuming you haven't completely given yourself up to a life of ne'er-do-wellry. Enjoy the enantidromia. Failing that, karma's a bitch.


It's really just tech culture like HN that obsesses over solving problems perfectly. From seat belts to DRM to deodorant, most of the world is satisfied with mitigating problems.

Thank you for the Swish recommendation! Just installed, looks great.

As someone who had a brand new M1 MBP stolen from a San Jose coworking space. I am 100% in favor of the this having at best some parts and not a working computer.

I do hope you understand that 'bad thing X happened to me, therefore any measure to prevent X is good' is a logical fallacy?

"As someone who had a brand new mbp stolen from me, I'm personally 100% in favor of the remote-c4 installed in every mbp. Just imagine if he could have accessed my banking information?"


Nice. Now do the same thing with "as someone who lost a loved one to a drunk driver, I think harsh penalties and license revocations are a good policy." You can probably find a similar straw man to apply?

Yeah let's all surrender what remains of computer ownership to a software-hardware conglomerate, because theft.

You can turn it off.

You think you can.

Not coincidentally, that was around when Microsoft really internalized that they are an enterprise company, not a consumer company.

In enterprises, the local user IS hostile, or at least some percentage of them are. The ethos of “we can’t trust end users” leaked from enterprise fixation into general Microsoft culture.


Local user being hostile should be a user group setting in enterprise versions, not a default across all versions of them.

But now that I think of it, I was pretty hostile to my computer when I was ten years old and running windows 2000. I don't think we ever saw so many pop-ups before.

But even so, the admins of the computer system should have control over their computers. I can understand if my mom's user profile might have limitation, but the my admin profile should not.


Security isn't an unqualified good. You're always secure something from some threat. Keeping the subject and the threat actor implicit is causing confusion in minds of many tech people, and is in part the reason how we land in situations like this.

Windows is not just an operating system on your computer. It is a product (nowadays, a service) of Microsoft. Some security systems in it are meant to protect the PC/system/user from external threats. Others are meant to protect Microsoft, and Windows as a product/service, from the user.

Being specific about what is being protected and from whom, is more important than specifics of the actual security technology. After all, depending on the answers to those two questions, the very same security technology is protecting you from a cyber-criminal installing a rootkit on your PC, protecting Microsoft from you pirating Windows, and protecting copyright interests from you trying to watch a movie in a geographic location they don't want you to watch it in.


Exactly this. Also global sales and marketing and support.

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