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If it's anything like that pathetic excuse for an exclusive video from last week it won't be worth watching.

Report the news . Don't make it, fabricate it or skew it.

The days of yellow journalism are still alive and well.


>>>The days of yellow journalism are still alive and well.

Ahem, Fox?


its slightly ironic that people like you and me are less likely to subject here the HN meme of 'moral obligation to maximize shareholder value'.


If you are in a war zone near people with weapons you have no right to complain if you get shot at.

You can Monday morning quarterback the scenario all day long. The fact is the pilots saw firearms and RPG's with a group of people and knew US soldiers would be the target. It's tragic but what armed conflict isn't.


When you live in a war zone, you don't really have a lot of say in wether or not you will be near people with guns. Also, are you saying that the children in the van have no right to complain?


Iraq is not a "war zone" (the war ended in 2003). As in the United States, many law-abiding citizens in Iraq carry weapons for self defense. Sometimes local militias have heavy weapons for self defense because their neighborhood is threatened by rival militias.


a little dated but fun


Bravo


What prevents someone from doing a screen capture or content scrape of your data and posting it to their website?

Are you geared up to start sending out cease and desist notices to every chump with a myspace account who happens to like sports and knows how to use pbrush and ALT+Print Screen.

Good luck but it seems too easily to rape your content and leave you holding the legal bill for a fight you can't win.


I'm not attacking every freemium model out there.. just one that involves sports that have a large percentage of fanatic fans and their favorite teams stats . Other models don't have the same potential for copyright violation.

The idea and technology being used is great I just think there may be an enormous legal battle ahead should the site and service become very popular.


The scenario you are describing would hardly hit what would otherwise be paying customers. If he is still profitable, then the only problem is that the pirates are getting something for free which, from a business point of view, is irrelevant.


How is that different than screen capturing any website and posting to Myspace?? This is an issue (not really) for any website.

And there are no legal issues if someone does this to my content.


You're basically attacking every freemium model that sells data as their product. This isn't unique to his idea.


The evil part of paypal is that they don't learn from their mistakes very quickly and they seem to not realize they are affecting peoples MONEY. Kinda silly but true. It's business as usual over there regardless of $1 or $100,000 they just tied up of your cash.

I went through the same scenario in 2003 with paypal with tens of thousands of dollars locked up pending a review... Thankfully we had a back up plan (credit card processing)

The plus side of paypal... when you and if you can process some serious loot through them you get treated like a rock star and you get access people and help you wouldn't otherwise get.


tens of thousands of dollars is not serious loot?


It wasn't to them at the time... not until we had processed about 80-100k did things settle down.

I think they have a hard time with their risk management protocol. Keep customers happy and loose a lot of money or piss off customers and loose less money from scammers...


More data mining by google under the guise of global awesomeness.

The point most people miss is that all of your habits and information are under one roof and only need one subpoena to get your entire electronic life on DVD. This just adds to what they already know about your searching, emailing , communicating and spending.


The Google product manager responded to TechCrunch saying "no blocking, hijacking, or filtering" and responded on privacy with "Collected data includes IP address (up to 48 hours, to detect malicious behavior against the service), ISP information and geographic information (2 weeks each). The data is not correlated with your Google account in any way."

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/03/google-dns-opendns/


It may not be correlated, but that doesn't mean that Google isn't getting a ton of commercial benefit from this data. It's like having your own Alexa/Quantcast, but in realtime, and with much better granularity.


I agree. I also think it's fair for the provider of a public service to derive some benefit from running it. The obvious questions are: Is it ethical? Is it honest? (Google phrases it as "Don't be evil.")

In this case, if they are providing an alternative to filtering and hijacking, I see that as a really important step forward. The fact that a lot of people expected those behaviors shows just how bad the situation with DNS really is these days.


Furthermore, they tend to open source a lot of their stuff, so they don't have to be the only way to Chat, Wave, Browse, and probably eventually DNS.


And an even more biased population :/


We don't correlate or combine your information from these logs with any other log data that Google might have about your use of other services, such as data from Web Search and data from advertising on the Google content network. After keeping this data for two weeks, we randomly sample a small subset for permanent storage.

It sounds like a good faith effort aimed at speeding things up to me.


Just to be fair, 25% is a small subset, and if all the chrome installations use it as their default DNS, they'd have quite a lot of data.


I agree, but said data would be a sample from a user base that is far from the general user base of the internet, and Google's user base too. Data from Chrome browsers only would be heavily skewed.


Yea, because your ISP totally wouldn't do the same thing.


I suppose the ISP can do that anyway, no matter what you do. Even if you use Google DNS, your ISP can still know where you surf to.


No it wouldn't since I use my own DNS. Even if I did not it would not produce the same amount of data in one fell swoop.


Depends on the stage of development.

initial concept is pen and paper while out of office usually (i.e beach or cafe or somewhere casual) Develop concept and initial code is usually on laptop Final development and refinement on desktop


A great example of how great software inspires in more ways than one.


absolutely. I bet Vegas is taking bets on it


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