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Lisp is written top to bottom left to right but because it's (almost) fully nested it's executed right to left bottom to top.

Haskell and OCaml are, by comparison, not very nested.


This is not true.

    (defun f (x)
      (let ((y x))
        (setf y (* y x))
        (block foo
          (if (minusp y)
              (return-from foo y))
          (loop :for i :from 1 :to 10 :do
            ...
This is absolutely typical bog-standard left-to-right top-to-bottom structured programming type code. It also must be executed like so:

  - Define the function 
  - Bind the variable 
  - Mutate the variable
  - Set up a named block
  - Do a conditional return
  - Run a loop
  - ...
The order of execution literally matches the order it's written. But not unlike almost all other languages on the planet, expressions are evaluated inside-out.

Haskell's whole raison d'etre is to allow arbitrary nesting and substitution of terms, and all or none of these terms may or may not be evaluated depending on need. De-nesting happens with a copious number of syntax to bind names to values, sometimes before the expression (via let), sometimes after the expression (via where), and sometimes in the middle of an expression (via do).


When you say multiplier, what kind of number are you talking about. Like what multiple of features shipped that don't require immediate fixes have you experienced.

It's coding at 10-20x speed, but tangibly this is at 1.5-2x the overall productivity. The coding speed up doesn't translate completely to overall velocity yet.

I am beginning to build a high degree of trust in the code Claude emits. I'm having to step in with corrections less and less, and it's single shotting entire modules 500-1k LOC, multiple files touched, without any trouble.

It can understand how frontend API translates to middleware, internal API service calls, and database queries (with a high degree of schema understanding, including joins).

(This is in a Rust/Actix/Sqlx/Typescript/nx monorepo, fwiw.)


Okay but again what multiplier of features have you actually shipped.

People hate it when copyright law is used by corporations to crush people.

People hate it when copyright law is ignored by corporations to crush people.

This isn't particularly hard to grasp.


Class consciousness isn't real and won't hurt you

Yes, I too hate copyright law

Trump doesn't care because he has no fucking idea how anything works (cf tariffs).


I'll throw out Fooyin for QT


Fooyin is great. For those spoiles by foobar2000, there are no alternatives.


thanks I'll have to test this out!


>>The ideal program is clear enough to be self explanatory.

No one has ever written an "ideal program".


True, but that doesn't mean that you should stop trying getting close to it.


>>Yes Trump's FCC threats over Jimmy Kimmel were also wrong, but he didn't have a government agency doing it to citizens.

so in this sentence do you think the FCC isn't a government agency or that Jimmy Kimmel isn't a citizen?


He's clearly alluding the fact that the Biden admin did far worse.

The great sin of Trump's FCC was a single ill-advised tweet by FCC chair Brendan Carr... in which he threatened to enforce the law as written. For comparison, the Biden admin's FBI actively engaged in purely political media manipulation in service of the sitting president's campaign, such as when they lied to Facebook (and presumably others) to "prebunk" the Hunter's Laptop story, which directly lead to a near-total ban of a factual news story.


You're joking right? People got arrested and jailed for posting a Kirk meme https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jail...

Let's not even talk about all the other rhetoric of arresting and even killing people who voiced different opinions coming from the current regime.


> You're joking right? People got arrested and jailed for posting a Kirk meme https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/17/politics/retired-cop-jail

How are the actions of the Perry County Police Department relevant to this conversation?

> Let's not even talk about all the other rhetoric of arresting and even killing people who voiced different opinions coming from the current regime.

Hysterical nonsense.


He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct, or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political.

It was more that a tweet no, but an interview with Benny johnson, an avowed political figure paid by Russians at one point?


> He wrote that the FCC wasn't a government agency. Hard to argue that is correct

You're harping on a detail that hardly matters in order to avoid the broader point, which is rather silly. The FCC is a government agency. Brendan Carr made an ill-advised tweet, which doesn't hold a candle to Biden's use of the FBI to spread misinformation and induce censorship for political purposes.

> or that their political pursuit of one of trump's "enemies" isn't actually political.

Of course it's political. It's political when both sides do it.

> ...paid by Russians at one point

Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here.


>Ah, I see that I'm wasting my time here.

When you're ignoring the comment talking about people arrested for criticizing a political pundit to argue about minutae and claiming "both sides are bad", yes.


You got me. I am avoiding the comment about the Perry County Police Department, as it's so incredibly damaging to my worldview. The cognitive dissonance is simply too great to bear.


I feel it bears repeating, Benny Johnson has been paid a lot of Russian money.


Okay, end of 2026 then what? No one ever learns how to use the tools after that? No one gets a job until the pre-2026 generation dies?


For now i think people can still catch up quickly, but at the end of 2027 it's probably going to be a different story.


I heard 2028 is when it really gets impossible to catch up.


Lol


Specifically they wait until it's enough to charge with felony theft.


17 an hour except at a few high CoL stores.


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